From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x32d.google.com (mail-wm1-x32d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76CCB3B29D for ; Mon, 8 May 2023 15:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x32d.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-3f192c23fffso32675125e9.3 for ; Mon, 08 May 2023 12:16:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1683573410; x=1686165410; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=kbcu62QqSzMtYKXPHCSk9rNuqppIgDc0FiwV20Clh/Q=; b=YQcsv8WtbA5YDknUSjuJoXWKV9ZB0oAhKNxCHUDC+OEE13+Ad7f9HhMGwpgLY6cfck saMyj747Pz02fYjTp0vH7l6PrclMdHXTxsa8VjfsWkzLwdX6sjI4FHKUsLYanPT+K+/4 SXmo4E0175YfUJqu/QcSIq20GDGBunoA/B5p6t68566Z2O5hOeZXArMCWkZlDyNkL9Sh z1gOeRYjn64Hos4KvncOf7ktYw86776sPV1GSeYoW1W0JaipyPhXsbg0IARtktnrvy3+ iCs5qrGyirtmfbdc+fw0OJAuGTuGsX4AzKuUdrH3xEeS2EEs0eAcrLbuK9TgQK3sOFBj HNFQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1683573410; x=1686165410; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=kbcu62QqSzMtYKXPHCSk9rNuqppIgDc0FiwV20Clh/Q=; b=H1+fdEGJJYIU2LAwOAm6gclVQUnCCQJzR5C1AH6UykUhLbhGMj9KHXA1Ng98E0Z+Cj 8nBaQjjQbqEnx0pM5gOcnorZxQ7CIx1mAXawV6nAIEu5kZVgfneDdcoEaDlRj09h/cqf nV9vDZOFvNqKIwXkjLkR/1wziwx0ubLBFo2amdVee09Z9zwYlI6kGuPTT5Lfgd0I+c+5 COC6RoJL9pf+gqJb9/ER1fY5ixmr0gXXNn+TCb4aNPXE+WGtHfAGCzLTgx8h/Xel8W1C 3bYoAuZFTIZoX9xPqNQcrTisSp8em2eLxEP4zOjN/V3x3ySg8FbM1J1m/9PqUYOWznFW BLlw== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDw6WDEuTvejrycAJBDIEnv5IKgOTPhjh4GcIePqCOAQahMLuzb8 27Bu7isQPVAujKyOoBkj4mVh1JliqjZKRHQTA00= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ71dMydDDAYWSL5/j9bvupy5JK40UuWU3qMeV5UrBMxUrICpHpskXmORuozFgT6N2g5aCQaze3DBYLhSwYIb74= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:720f:0:b0:3f4:16bc:bd1c with SMTP id n15-20020a1c720f000000b003f416bcbd1cmr5555187wmc.3.1683573409718; Mon, 08 May 2023 12:16:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 12:16:37 -0700 Message-ID: To: Ingemar Johansson S Cc: "bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000a25ad05fb337bd9" Subject: Re: [Bloat] ookla speedtests on 5G X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 May 2023 19:16:51 -0000 --0000000000000a25ad05fb337bd9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 6:55=E2=80=AFAM Ingemar Johansson S via Bloat < bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > 1.08Mbps down and 0.33Mbps up is hardly representative for 5G.. I wonder > if the measurement was done three stories down in a basement :-) > > the twitter thread itself was a pretty representative example of how bad the bloat can get, even at the highest 5G speeds. > /Ingemar > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 18:32:56 -0700 > > From: Dave Taht > > To: Rpm , bloat > > , libreqos > > > > Subject: [Bloat] ookla speedtests on 5G > > Message-ID: > > < > CAA93jw5gM3ujEemMjJv81vxSpKigZBJO64g7J6TKBJxXK93fsQ@mail.gmail.com > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" > > > > This was quite the long list of speedtest pics, all showing pretty > > gnarly bufferbloat across all services. > > > > https://twitter.com/ianzelbo/status/1653757825972142081 > > > > Not a single poster caught on to the awfulness in the responsiveness > > numbers. > > > > > > -- > > Podcast: > > https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:705879391022711193= 7 > > / > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > --=20 Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227111937/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos --0000000000000a25ad05fb337bd9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 6:55=E2=80=AFA= M Ingemar Johansson S via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
1.08Mbps down and 0.33= Mbps up is hardly representative for 5G.. I wonder if the measurement was d= one three stories down in a basement :-)


the twitter thread itself was a pretty= representative example of how bad the bloat can get, even at the highest 5= G speeds.
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> Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 18:32:56 -0700
> From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
> To: Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>, bloat
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> Subject: [Bloat] ookla speedtests on 5G
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> This was quite the long list of speedtest pics, all showing pretty
> gnarly bufferbloat across all services.
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> https://twitter.com/ianzelbo/status/1653= 757825972142081
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> Not a single poster caught on to the awfulness in the responsiveness > numbers.
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> --
> Podcast:
> https://www.linkedin.co= m/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227111937
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> Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos
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