From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Packet loss in FCC press release
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 08:35:10 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw4N9mYyAvpcGtTM10y+2uezzUBJM0Kt_PsvUT2kjgpFmA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJq5cE2U8v=fpwdQQuTfdtZqQH7y=m5MfaQbd=MN+Sfqb6oFWA@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's not ideal, but I'm not quite as worried about that as you might be.
> There are several potential causes of packet loss in a network, and
> increasing buffer sizes is only likely to have a minor and temporary effect
> on one of them.
Clearly establishing that 0 packet loss (without ECN) is bad, that
some range of rates of packet loss relative to
bandwidth is GOOD, and levels above that indicative of a problem,
would nice. I can envision a meter
designed to show that.
>
> Meanwhile, increased deployment of ECN would permit adding AQM as a means to
> decrease packet loss.
>
> Random packet loss due to poor quality lines, and also due to dumb policers
> and overloaded core routers, is probably what's intended here.
>
> - Jonathan Morton
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-27 16:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-27 10:49 Eggert, Lars
2015-02-27 15:47 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-27 16:35 ` Dave Taht [this message]
2015-02-27 19:47 ` Matt Mathis
2015-02-27 19:08 ` Rick Jones
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