From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd31.google.com (mail-io1-xd31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4307D3B29D for ; Wed, 26 May 2021 14:36:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd31.google.com with SMTP id b81so2086725iof.2 for ; Wed, 26 May 2021 11:36:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NO8oPk7sclmQbSS16whS5JqibLRqkYvkLX0UkqIIKZQ=; b=qXyXPnI6ZbXO5GpMIIFTIxqZAgyZGx/f1AmoVkQfZTnpQrw+FCN5f+XMccuNHTq1nN p22bs87BvCdAOslHxrCt9nTvJrBMQVlPiQ9TKPOetiPs1LZ4AAlS0dc79Mf/zsH0J0Kx F7sOhXtrRP+izBmaW7RtxDEYF7LkCZbLxJR1/jY4dGa5OWWut/Zp4xxDH8HkGn0epJox J0XYVgtAGQB1zh+73iCCgpekU97Nz44x5HB47C7h6mCRryXyjI0du1utRrzzB+TSiYTQ uXOfTt6sxKY9cfkRLAceuMs+83ySh27zvBMRQEVD4KtvOKgg3QU7SjVw9Xru4FVMt3o1 EXQA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NO8oPk7sclmQbSS16whS5JqibLRqkYvkLX0UkqIIKZQ=; b=CnPOoTJrV7yGLUTyio04NNUS4c8h+TcBlZaoU3XjY5bAepQswZ3ihaCrMYcenponWh z7K2gOhVrb6wgESTzjPNAlhnGXGA/pOhtqZJ9+8bwHUbJtxG0TonKKpfzHeUT6QH/tdY JIo9hwUgtNrMJ3fTR1B55vpD42fcBn8JK3OeTA8zWoffvt38GJFRsHLSnpAlBpfLJKm9 YS++w2QVuYhEy8Xi3M+dAYT7BAly0iogZQvqLut37W5VZo/8B2lNBSy5PtcEsnhdf58G fIqRXxC+2yrghjwNmgonnArT/8oh1zTrnxXVmp5ZJdgzYaR/WpxM6YS5GQ65O6rxj2+h CVgA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533bmRnfTUj1hInfpYjQR46KE7dEJKQowUYCfUpc2nSKqW7oIwh7 UTMG/01sJe0wxOmimd6svPY9hlBMdyRyXswArpI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyJUztOy4P/wwaO6/MhyGjEBrGNZqCndMiOEuZcXimb87VRButGxwKlg7UY0JYumXwVT6f3jTOGl74fd5XbzqY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6638:22b4:: with SMTP id z20mr4483042jas.128.1622054186836; Wed, 26 May 2021 11:36:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8CA408F6-C8FA-4AAF-908A-B52BDC5030FF@cable.comcast.com> <3DC2F247-63C2-4753-9E44-2F494E545FEA@apple.com> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 11:36:14 -0700 Message-ID: To: Jonathan Morton Cc: Stuart Cheshire , "bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] AQM & Net Neutrality X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 18:36:27 -0000 oops, wrong link for the that plea to both sides of the debate. The correct link was: http://blog.cerowrt.org/post/net_neutrality_customers/ On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 11:32 AM Dave Taht wrote: > > I made the most articulate pleas I could to both sides of the debate on t= his: > > https://blog.apnic.net/2020/01/22/bufferbloat-may-be-solved-but-its-not-o= ver-yet/ > > I do think that now that the scandal here has reached a peak: > https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/oag-fakecommentsreport.pdf > > that perhaps an honest appraisal of both AQM and fq+aqm technologies can = be had > in public, again. I'd be willing to reach across the isle on this, and > patiently explain stuff to lawmakers where their thinking is > incorrect, in order to finally fix bufferbloat. --=20 Latest Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6791014284936785920/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC