From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi0-x22c.google.com (mail-oi0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E269421F640 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by oigx81 with SMTP id x81so91175785oig.1 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:08:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eyu8Tsf3P58F7KRuX3y8bkuUNRxZehR1JYYcU796DXY=; b=qgehz0LzhHl/IitysmW7Qb79yTUmAJ9pAfljZxZK3x2c+XWIfLLmvBroeOZ7Tvd3kd 5eI8A1LgMtY9YpM/Tj3iEryJhOAkvUxxmc/RF8QtG6aWXG1yAA7OlBqFV0Uug/MWWXPM ADdIwst37kdCL3YQxGuYGgzNMPU8smzaBs6X9Vwx13BZhM3nxlkkGWCL0OLlnDDKld99 rR7TYGm2rnxiORHH/B/aYdXX9TpvcvFQci7ZUnYrbxqV61N83JXLonnVDeMd9re/prh/ Obufw8bq6VkfYxdz2g6oAdhClvO3hxM0QhIH++JrwB7+gNLJrftxF+o1QmLD7MGFdmOr kKBA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.91.212 with SMTP id p203mr14827891oib.108.1434762514792; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.105.129 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:08:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:08:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Benjamin Cronce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] tackling torrent on a 10mbit uplink (100mbit down) X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 01:09:04 -0000 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Benjamin Cronce wrote: > Linux ISOs are a great way to saturate your download. I have enough > downloaded that while seeding, I can sustain over 10Mb/s, but don't expec= t > to saturate your upload since they're already heavily seeded, but less so > since I stopped recently. I went for a representative sample of what torrent gets used for by ordinary users, randomly picking 4 torrents in the top 10 of music, tv, movies, and... um, er, ah, pr0n. ...FOR SCIENCE! :) Going for a linux distro would have yielded a different result. I used the gutenberg torrent and linux distros primarily in those earlier tests years ago, and I felt that the data I got then was probably skewed by that towards linux's behaviors. The major difference between then and now was no tcp whatsoever, and no ipv6, where before I had seen a lot of tcp and ipv6. I can redo those tests at some future point. I think the tcp absence here was partially upnp not working correctly in my setup last night. I have been quite concerned that as IW10 moved out there generically that that would be bad.... and perhaps the lack of ipv6 was due to the flooding ipv6 issue I posted earlier. So I'll think about how to go about it properly harder... after I patch transmission to tos mark packets correctly... (my original intent was to watch cake do classification) but I would argue to do it fairly right, consistently, over time, while altering other major variables like qdisc, would be to continue pulling from the top 10 categories the public is pulling from. suggestions, anyone? --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht worldwide bufferbloat report: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/results/bufferbloat And: What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone? https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast