Re: [Bloat] Best approach for debloating Airbnb host?

[Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>]

I carry around a gl.inet travel router with our stuff flashed on it.
If the conversation veers that way, I do a demo. I have upgraded two
out of 6 airbnbs so far. Cost me 30 bucks each. :)

I wish we could improve the airbnb speedtest. I have not tried it in a
while, but it did not test for bloat.

On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 5:39 AM Rich Brown via Bloat
<bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
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> I stayed in an Airbnb rental last week. It was nicely appointed with a very gracious host who lived in the other half of the home. They had decent internet from xfinity - I was getting 20mbps/5mpbs.
>
> But.. they have bad bufferbloat. I was on a Zoom call and occasionally people would sound like Darth Vader. I busted out a ping test to 8.8.8.8 and sure enough, latency spiked from a nominal 10-20 msec to 2500 msec and occasionally over 4000 msec.
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> I had to check out before I had a chance to mention it to the Airbnb host. And I'll probably leave it alone. But I'm still wondering - if I wanted to evangelize:
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> 1. What would I say? I know I don't want to blurt out, "your network has bufferbloat". That sounds worse than the cooties :-) I imagine that I'd mumble something about the Zoom call occasionally sounding like Darth Vader, and that I'm a network professional and recognize the symptom, and that there's a technical fix for it. I'd probably pause to see if their eyes lit up ("Oh, that happens to us all the time...") before proceeding. And then...
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> 2. What would I recommend? Obviously, inserting something with cake into the mix would help a lot. Even if they were willing to let me examine their entire network (Comcast router, Apple Airport in our Airbnb unit, other router?) I have no idea what kind of tar baby I would be touching. I don't want to become their network admin for the rest of time.
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> I know Dave Täht recommends that you help your local coffee shop debloat their network. But that's a place that you develop a personal relationship and you visit often enough to answer questions during a shake-down period. And they'll probably "let you in the back" to see what's there.
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> Anyone have good ideas about handling this? Or should I give it up?Thanks!
>
> Rich
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