From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk0-x235.google.com (mail-qk0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 236BF3B260 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2016 11:25:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qk0-x235.google.com with SMTP id q130so31989955qke.1 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:25:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=A3YnToAodlIdu7o2A0H4BzJPXOyN/OrBfm11Tm8z0Mc=; b=QBq/adIJU2qhx+FXC38lIBaxToLYOEL/sWSHsyPb6I17ypa2q9cq8+SzbT8xcueVZ9 FhTIVn65NCUHq6IgU+Rto1oSySuZYFXH/jKlAiOtFP3YF27395+AUEUoyJop82VSM+oI rNUQ0h1knTQDaxcQtNm2U+h7/yPmr1v/dF38h+4kLXECCYD8TlVoC+VpofR7AwA+DNzH oETqhb+INakUWQw+8EmzInU6g6cuaoBcyq8XzER/1+bHa0gCU7MW/FY5w33UwedlVrNG o+b+HBIFK/Vx5xQZkgUxdAk92bGo9HmDKNP/yrRGb8zhr/IHPDJiA9LXTTC1bUvnANTL RcpA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=A3YnToAodlIdu7o2A0H4BzJPXOyN/OrBfm11Tm8z0Mc=; b=EDK1Ex2gF9PWG7q8X1t4amPoiN1RKfY+ooXsqpDajbFFrT1qQg1JK1LOYj8gCY+efE a1wpG1kPgajyhSZmwa4STH/x75ZjoiiK91OWy5Fwkn/eEbtKOJpbsEelBIl0R/IGIwQh MZUXafSiLhmX+jtQnXkwdASo/eFmvDba/l+duvXiWkCDOlrA3iRCcgLUz+lqU5W5uAu0 rCdR8lqVJTFmzDyfpOEbEmCFJDJ43bd55k3gg4fZMjY8da0G564eZ4IIx4du2e6rSgt4 BchEL0kFXjyF/NVpTk0cQZEWBnRMY88yNfFrAX3VxC0Iwxo0tuQ/Jo4hpGDcnwPvc90K gDXA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01NDluSktPNT6aa4uwkLwhkIxycebuYsunkX2bCzQ/f8/lWJtWqtwbWbwhvs8JbT8hRmOncZsWwfd2m2w== X-Received: by 10.233.220.71 with SMTP id q68mr23035994qkf.153.1479831913637; Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:25:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.137.198 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:25:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8d72490d-551a-c58f-991a-1750e9af8df9@gmail.com> References: <8d72490d-551a-c58f-991a-1750e9af8df9@gmail.com> From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:25:13 -0800 Message-ID: To: Jan Ceuleers Cc: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] fixing bufferbloat in 2017 X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 16:25:14 -0000 On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Jan Ceuleers wrot= e: > On 22/11/16 16:32, Dave Taht wrote: >> What's left to do? > > Furthering adoption of the code that contains the bloat-related > improvements. > > In my view, the single biggest potential contributor towards driving > such adoption would be for Ookla to start measuring and reporting > bufferbloat, thereby putting it on the agenda of both end users and > carriers (who use Ookla's servers to qualify equipment in their labs). > That would in turn put it on the agenda of equipment manufacturers. We've been after ookla for years. Samknows, also. The FCC, too. But how to raise awareness further? An open letter? A petition to the white house? A press release? Until then, there's always dslreports and a few other sites. I would like to see the industries most affected by bufferbloat - voip/videoconferencing/gaming,web gain a good recognition of the problem, how to fix it, and who to talk to about it (router makers and ISPs) > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! http://blog.cerowrt.org