From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x136.google.com (mail-il1-x136.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFC943B29D; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 17:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-il1-x136.google.com with SMTP id x1so2528879ilv.4; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 14:37:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L+j1xXYYzMYRa4oHOpsOKutodkhgIoAhckdes0B28Pg=; b=WhDSqOFNBMxc1Ubsnm4IwcJfIEpf9EA5/pui07JgFEtTukAgRtKWmXikNBjes4DnTp 7tWxvCXB/em8B1Chi2Hcvk6FAoWaaOHF4xDj0jw7gwcj++wTa5mD9mvFp8DoKIN7T/nc iEb+ouvLNpMxVgp4BKSJSOsvjuVCHLh8acdYueME2lRLy2zCfhfJM93xdDCHhRzr5/Rz Lv5vO0/xJFuSdkqoEaWbH2ndXgTmyxsuGQUqnrcehi2NqNaliL6nneOfoOO6K1DzCtwr BoVHCHaDE8EdmHNcmSdHBjekwRVE+iMR75ey3q06/CzCQ8Hv6RkO3FSjb9rHYA3KmelR LnJg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L+j1xXYYzMYRa4oHOpsOKutodkhgIoAhckdes0B28Pg=; b=5qMPyC0pYyO8ah5Ln4x8+BEq1AK3TrdX2iikzkGE5ed8GWlvbcyAfBDNUi3o0xJOf0 XRrPRSltM879jesCZi61VnqJApDnArN2Sa6cA3ux04KNd5gonhvAIu0Jz2tEZwcg5Pxv 0Eyr1xfKkX0MUyPjGESmkRyVwGAKmR5Ty9P1bmIzGK2zAlu5RgCnlEjXJ30CUoF8tUCY Uz0ZsvdhL9dss0PJ6u1ZRAyygUfFVV65xIHYRVhfRGMnIIojFPcJz4LCOD74aM+zeWIt MkuGimvfAkp2siu+kfKXAtrOq9PdRDfpMJYRk6R5wpJNt76CcnvOD8cTc7PdQJxPPl+m Nvzw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530eNMvWXY81XEw5HwCCI4QQu9hrue5cqh2F5F93KQRlhw2MrElx MfWPp+ASKjom070q4o97IdrofIaKq0wF6pZUkgUNyEWP8y0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwuKAIolkC2EMQ6VWHuWoPTTjteNx97NlFclKyTvc+vOtAhp2GLUmEcrB2Il79cz7IlAdJWdcEhQVSZ3Y8duX8= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:15c6:: with SMTP id q6mr16738462ilu.221.1633901872129; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 14:37:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <003001d7bdf0$97282430$c5786c90$@inacomptc.com> <004901d7bdf2$8544e8a0$8fceb9e0$@inacomptc.com> <006f01d7be16$e21a95b0$a64fc110$@inacomptc.com> In-Reply-To: <006f01d7be16$e21a95b0$a64fc110$@inacomptc.com> From: Dave Taht Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 14:37:39 -0700 Message-ID: To: Jordan Szuch Cc: Cake List , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] some mikrotik comments X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 21:37:52 -0000 Encouraged! On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 1:39 PM Jordan Szuch wrote: > > Unfortunately, didn't have time to setup my own server but here are the r= esults for Flent on against the public east/west bufferbloat servers: https= ://1drv.ms/u/s!Ap4u4Rte63FqjqQ8zMdwTTBmcd_mnw?e=3D675gyh > > That's a shared OneDrive folder with results from running with CAKE and t= hen without any kind of shaping. Here's some additional information as well= . > > This was the command that was run: flent rrul -p all_scaled -l 60 -H netp= erf.bufferbloat.net -t the_test_parameters # helps to name the plots, so you can compare them l= ater --step-size=3D.05 # sample at a higher frequency > Internet is a Spectrum cable connection. Bandwidth is supposed to be 100M= bps down and 10Mbps up. I have it limited to 90Mbps and 9Mbps for shaping. = Here's also the CAKE settings I have configured on the router: Is it not a docsis 3.1 modem? Because your unshaped result was *miserable*. > > Upload Queue > name=3D"cake-nat-doc-up" kind=3Dcake cake-bandwidth=3D0bps cake-overhead= =3D18 > cake-mpu=3D64 cake-overhead-scheme=3Ddocsis cake-rtt=3D100ms > cake-diffserv=3Ddiffserv4 cake-flowmode=3Dtriple-isolate cake-nat=3D= yes > cake-wash=3Dno cake-ack-filter=3Dfilter 0bps ? with docsis framing you should be able to just say 10mbit, rather than 9. cake-ack-filter=3Dfilter ? does it have filter-aggressive? > > Download Queue > name=3D"cake-nat-doc" kind=3Dcake cake-bandwidth=3D0bps cake-overhead=3D1= 8 > cake-mpu=3D64 cake-overhead-scheme=3Ddocsis cake-rtt=3D100ms > cake-diffserv=3Ddiffserv4 cake-flowmode=3Dtriple-isolate cake-nat=3D= yes > cake-wash=3Dno cake-ack-filter=3Dnone It looks like your provisioned rate was closer to 120. Try 110. > Hopefully those settings are configured somewhat decently. Hope that help= s! > > Jordan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Taht > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 1:51 PM > To: Jordan Szuch > Cc: Cake List ; bloat > Subject: Re: [Bloat] some mikrotik comments > > goferit! We have flent servers throughout the world, mostly undocumented.= I tend to prefer folk setup their own, less noise in the data.... > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 9:18 AM Jordan Szuch wrote= : > > > > OK, I'll give it a shot! Please forgive me here as I haven't really run= flent before. Would running something like what's listed in the Quick Star= t here (https://flent.org/intro.html#quick-start) be sufficient? > > > > Jordan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dave Taht > > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 12:11 PM > > To: Jordan Szuch > > Cc: Cake List ; bloat > > > > Subject: Re: [Bloat] some mikrotik comments > > > > It's flent.org rrul test output that I love. > > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 9:05 AM Jordan Szuch via Bloat wrote: > > > > > > Hi Dave, > > > > > > Interesting that you should send this out; I recently picked up a uni= t (this one specifically: https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ac2) to do some = testing of the v7 firmware. Nothing super high end but enough to do a littl= e testing. I have CAKE set to do some shaping and so far seems functional. = At least the bufferbloat speed tests from DSLReports and WaveForm indicate = some shaping is happening. If you'd like any information about the unit, th= e v7 firmware, or particular tests run then I'd be happy to help out. > > > > > > Jordan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bloat On Behalf Of Dave > > > Taht > > > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 11:39 AM > > > To: Cake List ; bloat > > > > > > Subject: [Bloat] some mikrotik comments > > > > > > the v7 beta gained doc and more os support for fq_codel and cake > > > recently > > > > > > https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D885000#p885000 > > > > > > anyone out there actively testing mikrotik? > > > > > > -- > > > Fixing Starlink's Latencies: > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dc9gLo6Xrwgw > > > > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Bloat mailing list > > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Bloat mailing list > > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > > > > > > -- > > Fixing Starlink's Latencies: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dc9gLo6Xrwgw > > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > > > > > -- > Fixing Starlink's Latencies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dc9gLo6Xrwg= w > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > --=20 Fixing Starlink's Latencies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dc9gLo6Xrwgw Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC