From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x133.google.com (mail-il1-x133.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B4BC3B2A4 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-il1-x133.google.com with SMTP id e11so1404833ilr.4 for ; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 08:41:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=H/FtzfgMonjLiJOsF7th/BhtGbUxT26QOLkYaai6HlA=; b=rUjr7Wt8fmOh/rDCE0BWgORaGb4sojuPlCF126IEaCdFdXzMgVyXa8gq9vwKPF+fGu chF07RaHQaap3BaN/b+VARi8/eFLpq7ykTYqVK32yj+OHNxwvc9UPeH9ZR0Ia8AVsuRp RhAHTy5fyyuZ4Y0Kg+dzgZ1rChy6vm2P5VVBrKpJ0hIJZL2HX9wlfA9p2p83TEP3QSlB 4od6gNblhrtEJrmdMOE0XI/MuIB4uwN58+yuZlp3NmVWWnT7aQxJSbL93T+BRoBCPDvY HnIu6W3bvEt4bd+66KU0xqltk48w8DuSNE94DMxubjW+4f6Ukl8qBG4eYF4qtqQrcqH8 IBJg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=H/FtzfgMonjLiJOsF7th/BhtGbUxT26QOLkYaai6HlA=; b=TTn7JJF3JlNAB/FuOc6OZ2ndbs3Wr7RJVSMb0wJV7eSRiM28uV/bzrqu8CMcJBwJQz hwhPKhyQ9epSoXaMiASnsO+Saiay9IcMeXIQpZdXsTEHzq7sM4o/GDQNkk82WXpT5kJj uHMDQ3Ykhl/UpI9Rzf1tGO4o7ZE18KV8Z61XlVdDs5X5hNFTJ2XkX/E1DWLR5L9gPEIC de9QHLPIk1eDxTqoQ95I9zMC3WL8EldQ20WeYNUXk99X92ZqDvmEfYg3motkVeZZKkz9 Ib4D0vXCpoJfDdUaFxNwOw3zdwcHy8xxJ2n4HA8l6D9NAJaMtaL3bUUCq1YCru0RuZBW 1F5A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532KhysRJL3lJsmQnPS0CvOKE6wWy6i1ZBh7ZyuikWoAyynosABp 0FqzavwW1D5FE7qxDD1H81el8c3faM9Dsk9QTQw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy3o/TTWFXnhCfA6bX1+C2nCyMyq8+EFahgnNSgysSHqsk/PyiLJRAp3q/pQ2TXa2kHXCAXvTWQbobbg0dQYS4= X-Received: by 2002:a92:d409:: with SMTP id q9mr4383091ilm.246.1591285297916; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 08:41:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1C65A8E8-3685-4DCB-ABC1-0AF353EA0E5B@gmail.com> <87v9k7jgzo.fsf@toke.dk> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 08:41:26 -0700 Message-ID: To: John Graham-Cumming Cc: =?UTF-8?B?VG9rZSBIw7hpbGFuZC1Kw7hyZ2Vuc2Vu?= , Jonathan Morton , Adam Hunt , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [Bloat] New speed/latency/jitter test site from Cloudflare X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2020 15:41:38 -0000 Dear John: I am primarily an email person. But if github is the best way to engage, we can do that. My own bugaboo is that it helps a LOT to verify your test is measuring what you think it is, via using another tool. In our case that's flent (typically the rrul test), which gives correct results past 10Gbit. Most of the web browser based tests start to struggle > 200mbit. I'd so LOVE to be able to put the basic requirements for flent (netperf and irtt) on more servers around the world...