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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: jb <justin@dslr.net>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] extremely good dslreports result for bufferbloat on free.fr
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:43:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw4jkMy+t1uiVC9rh36vmye=aVjmqohmWUX8-OWLgYB0wg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH3Ss96JzO5mYyxFza9G6rKNOkT1OQxw+M_g32faLnuFxpFoJg@mail.gmail.com>

A: (fq_codel no ecn) (http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/393466

A+ (fq_codel + ecn was enabled) http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/393300

A: (fq_codel) http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/393241

A: (fq_codel) http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/391178

D: (fq_codel on the link but over wifi)
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/391178

Lemme go check native comcast and pie....


On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:33 PM, jb <justin@dslr.net> wrote:
> yes it did get no rating, I don't generate ratings unless everything looks
> "right",
> meaning a decent number of down idle and up pings.
>
> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/377563
>
> There are only 6 latency samples during download, even though the download
> phase started at the 12 second mark and continued until the 23 second mark,
> (meaning 11 seconds).
>
> The latency pings that happened during the download got held up to the
> extent
> that they came in and were counted as "idle" ones. I'll have to ponder on
> this,
> I think my pings need to be labelled by origin (what we were doing when they
> were sent) not classified as they return.
>
> if it did get a rating it would be an "D" or "F"..
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Heh. Anything above a 250ms gets a F from me. But I strongly approve
>> of simplification to a set of grades.
>>
>> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/378980 F, for sure.
>>
>> Secondly, we tend to regard bufferbloat as one word not two.
>>
>> This result got no rating. http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/377563
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:07 PM, jb <justinbeech@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I've added the discussed "bloat rating".
>> >
>> > It takes the idle period before download uses the lowest latency as a
>> > baseline.
>> > then it takes the median download and median of upload+trailing idle
>> > time,
>> > and
>> > subtracts to get the latency increase, then converts to a grade.
>> >
>> > Based on a very few results I've looked at the Grade seems reasonable.
>> > I've
>> > added
>> > a link below the grade for the WTF is this moment a lot of people will
>> > have,
>> > which
>> > takes them to a short FAQ entry, and then a link to bufferbloat.net ..
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Juliusz Chroboczek
>> >> <jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> wrote:
>> >> > Free.fr (Proxad) is certainly much better than other ISPs -- they've
>> >> > been
>> >> > the first to give sort-of-native (6rd) IPv6 to the masses.  However,
>> >> > there's one thing that annoys me -- they have two distinct CPEs, the
>> >> > classic FreeBox (which I have) and the FreeBox Revolution (which is
>> >> > slightly less cheap, and takes more physical space -- a big deal if
>> >> > you
>> >> > live in Paris).  The classic FreeBox needs some love from the
>> >> > firmware
>> >> > developers, and I'd be curious to know whether your results apply
>> >> > equally
>> >> > to both boxen.
>> >>
>> >> All ya gotta do is run the new dslreports and/or rrul test(s) on your
>> >> own older box, and post. ;)
>> >>
>> >> My understanding was that the old freebox was too weak to run anything
>> >> but SFQ, but it did run that on the outbound.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > (The thing that most pisses me off with the classic FreeBox is that
>> >> > it
>> >> > doesn't allow IPv6 subnetting -- unless you order the FreeBox
>> >> > Revolution,
>> >> > you're condemned to the purgatory of ND-proxying.  Grr.)
>> >>
>> >> As tiny as the mods now are to support more extensive ipv6 in openwrt,
>> >> that certainly was not the case in 2012.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > -- Juliusz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Dave Täht
>> >> Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware**
>> >>
>> >> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67
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>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Täht
>> Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware**
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67
>
>



-- 
Dave Täht
Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware**

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-30  4:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-28 14:48 Dave Taht
2015-04-28 23:33 ` jb
2015-04-28 23:44   ` David Lang
2015-04-29  1:39     ` Jonathan Morton
2015-04-29  2:01       ` Dave Taht
2015-04-29  2:49       ` jb
2015-04-29 16:32 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2015-04-29 18:32   ` Dave Taht
     [not found]     ` <CAH3Ss96FnwgK8qxdV-n46GLe2FSsRRa7zD1M_Wmq91o=+-7qdQ@mail.gmail.com>
2015-04-30  4:23       ` Dave Taht
2015-04-30  4:33         ` jb
2015-04-30  4:43           ` Dave Taht [this message]
2015-04-30  4:55             ` Dave Taht
2015-04-30  5:23               ` Dave Taht
2015-04-30  5:49                 ` jb
2015-04-30 16:36           ` Dave Taht
2015-05-01  0:48             ` Rich Brown
2015-05-01  3:10               ` jb
2015-05-01  4:41                 ` [Bloat] ThinkBroadBand also has a bloat detector in their speed test Rich Brown
2015-05-01  6:17                   ` jb
2015-05-01  6:05                 ` [Bloat] extremely good dslreports result for bufferbloat on free.fr Dave Taht
2015-05-01  6:31                   ` jb
2015-05-01  8:10                     ` Dave Taht
2015-05-02 11:49                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-05-02 13:40                       ` jb
2015-05-02 15:01                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-05-02 16:55                           ` Dave Taht
2015-05-02 17:15                 ` Aaron Wood

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