From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-iy0-f171.google.com (mail-iy0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FC3E200840 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 01:49:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so4646837iah.16 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 01:49:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=akf8XFgzYLCKXh0Wzoq2Jy0K8H5ASuDRsIXKz0GQD2g=; b=QjfJzbQvfxSVBZXP6axKqwz5dH6Hv06b6OSM9XaRVaB65VvJ27C+MxrJWDsTZTAL24 bouLNFDubD8WbocxHreIGDLbdYg0edPe6HBc/0MNSYSGQwf2SRSG5CrnX6/BC8w6tBIh JIV+4Het930lA1Gq+5/BiBxmu6j/aACsbZzDQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.151.68 with SMTP id d4mr6476794icw.36.1326620952778; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 01:49:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.159.193 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 01:49:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <042401ccd2da$881e7f33$75011fac@comx.local> References: <042401ccd2da$881e7f33$75011fac@comx.local> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:49:12 +0100 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] What is fairness, anyway? was: Re: finally... winning on wired! X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:49:13 -0000 On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote= : > Hi Dan > > It delights me to see that you are using TC options linklayer ADSL and ov= erhead (from my ADSL optimizer work), in your qos scripts :) I saw that too! :) We all stand on the shoulders of giants. I also note: that the person standing on the topmost giant... is banging their head against the ceiling.... a lot. -- Dave T=E4ht SKYPE: davetaht