From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x132.google.com (mail-il1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 807B43B2A4; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 14:50:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-il1-x132.google.com with SMTP id v15so378678iln.0; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 11:50:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=whjyTKAGm4vKB8GC/T3kqTM9X27kWcJnnBJGb8V0vqs=; b=O+2n99U3YGlYXP2vZLz2+NPJRNgMrD+1iIShI/EwXG9kfC8H57MKwGI1Kg+ITk1nhE xIXMejhDqJeLebk8DGy6dPn5DARZErFnyWDmVmWqT4oRthgPwAX0oIprGh6RN314Od6J uh//dsNFtwSFOj+qdjFhvdZBtoGBu6R0HdFraSuGDqpE47vIoVdr1jpy26bephiRMCx5 JlhrKEKUZd/2BXH5IiOIhYf7g594aSY1AU5NpyG1rRNm3Du1R0cY2HCxAq39eC/sRmeO OHz+We6CXHNeYV1rqa/UpQmjGnEORFs9Vl/tGH0MEey7T7pZF1UeGomb+EoQZIAz0Fyo Y1Iw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=whjyTKAGm4vKB8GC/T3kqTM9X27kWcJnnBJGb8V0vqs=; b=gTpGN247CIfyzXh5LfnsdaITITmVqu7QWlrTqB+YKQ7zBS+1Fg6zWbpGYYx57UTV3E x0L+dBir4jw8cUSPWX8y9iwhGhaA5y6Kk4Lgb4Cz1zuGfbahOGZU82H7RjlMBLHhsbkG PlUl0PF2ag/VOrZ8E5FOcy/fdrDZDZZlcE5+gOgvPguR4L15Tdpxy5jWLj7ZZfqdDgOe 4JZ5yQ10ZqGfXL0Tqs/CkdbOq6TEhNWoqgQP80GipDpqLYavPafJJZO1eKAzQt2D7RA7 DJguDz6hCRRnqzTyTTprf8JUOoTGRkzogVrycv+NvwFqpEzCXrym3GZiW0dO9YjcmqLu ozRg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWqvuOjZtzU8r8+OdUeub/7QqkdRjnkhQq/4+rCKGdLcEn0mtlr /oIi007+HoZe7LcDUUyHc/hRZXwcUBh+22VqCr9Ii6w/ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwnwF1T62P3T1HG14ZpNqFaNbrNlfDxxSB5L/IuiG6mkEjFNyLdIRgeS2hIp5iSisKluVjScupJr4PRNiTHr6Y= X-Received: by 2002:a92:390c:: with SMTP id g12mr9140346ila.246.1579722658542; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 11:50:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 11:50:47 -0800 Message-ID: To: bloat , cerowrt-devel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] apnic blog on my bufferbloat talk at linux.conf.au X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 19:50:59 -0000 using people as packets! https://blog.apnic.net/2020/01/22/bufferbloat-may-be-solved-but-its-not-ove= r-yet/ while there is no new info on bloat in this talk, it can be pretty funny in spots, if any of y'all need a lift. I'd like to give a talk like this again one day, also being able to fit in bbr and ecn... but I'd need less jokes and/or a bit more time. While the conference wifi network was horribly bloated, the net at the speakers dinner had a recent ubnt AP, and wasn't. Was nice to see that "down under"! Also of extreme value of the conference was the thought provoking talk on "the dark side of expertise": https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/809556/f8a2a973296c14c5/ It didn't take long for the insights of that talk to show up - in mine, I'd assumed my human packets would line up on the right, first, but this being australia, my human packets "naturally" wanted to go from left to right, and much "packet reordering" and hilarity ensued. --=20 Make Music, Not War Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-435-0729