From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yw1-x1131.google.com (mail-yw1-x1131.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A4813B29D for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-yw1-x1131.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-59f6441215dso46147537b3.2 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:18:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1695676714; x=1696281514; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=JC4hlO0oCAt9WhfKv6/yoc30kjtTubDYskFCbeWbNhY=; b=H1ehTYVNto7xbtinIVqkEc0NMKljqISw7aSAGAdh+uBMZAOGpP/NciYOpld2E5COJn Cnnaz6am/eg7tXxBjpGq54pzeAjFPsjg2+L0ZkXwO8yL8uMl9l5/1vdsS8w8dMs9sXss 4rU7HW4ud9/2NOLo+9FD+Zz08wSGZ4pShCoZVgdYV1Fr1kqBIYhYe8JtGAF+7Geh2MZA iBcJ+xAqr1et/kWryGDSnJN7eSEdsKItVuWya+xw1kdcjKoclk2z80qK6ogdffWzmzxA es2AT6Fz5l+OH4F0RLp9a9OmhbnPD/bSfQNdIvz51OxR3NLoDB9CZxoG2GfIjRSIbkDi y4Dg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1695676714; x=1696281514; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=JC4hlO0oCAt9WhfKv6/yoc30kjtTubDYskFCbeWbNhY=; b=edqhHbCllwJyGQiCmD0jlwVgF8mRFLUJSbva4IZp0JTyAUYWOtJFqD0vWxO4k/nT0Q oCdDRaF3asSS8q+gyAe9kyDWSt+9vYQMNJby+Z2zDlQsaLjcCqC7taNdSjrukI2ZD9S3 3DCFqwhjCQRYZm08AOD3hjl1YGu2Zgh9Pqy/cFyrpuiSuVMv8B7hmSYVi3GKGgpfRVM+ hw3UyxObjMhTGw8mJt/NFZsYckIUvA3bfet9MMCENWAvRJFTsZzDH9R6LexJ2qKjgR2c tnxSbYRCAoAOiNt+PaDH4K/R05lk3vFnUmnmS1Nenk7nrkg30UcJs6JqdLmtpANzjPpD dHyg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yze7RoAVR/wE4/V9pFKon70KK7JFrFMAWZ+vnDBUzRz7KAn+AHI AEbgybPKTzb3Y+B2+BGns2tDuqpVXo/AB6S9fRvgefGPyoQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGdpRokJi1Cye3ogo351ZghXlh6gS4oyW2oTZpjxUhv+vcR8DWCbMyeYzJHwSAJnxkqfI1uPSn28beG53bJR7Y= X-Received: by 2002:a81:a251:0:b0:59b:533a:485f with SMTP id z17-20020a81a251000000b0059b533a485fmr6809318ywg.52.1695676714542; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:18:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <14070C4F89255E13B9D93B81@10.96.7.39> In-Reply-To: <14070C4F89255E13B9D93B81@10.96.7.39> From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:18:20 -0700 Message-ID: To: Kenneth Porter Cc: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] The Register; How TCP's congestion control saved the internet X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 21:18:35 -0000 This is possibly the first time the word bufferbloat has made the register. I hope it is not the last. Although the author called out van=C2=B4s early work, he seems to have missed it was also van and kathie on codel, and he was also on the BBR team. What would have happened to the net without van? On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 1:34=E2=80=AFPM Kenneth Porter via Bloat wrote: > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --=20 Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos