[Bloat] cloudflare consumer labels blog

[Bloat] cloudflare consumer labels blog

[Dave Taht]

"We believe that metrics beyond bandwidth such as latency and jitter
(the variance in latency) have grown appreciably in importance and
that should be reflected in policy going forward."

- https://blog.cloudflare.com/breaking-down-broadband-nutrition-labels/

It also includes a number for "typical packet loss": .08%

I miss when we could do a discussion in line with a blog, or via
email, in this case, they post urls to reddit, etc, at the end.

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Re: [Bloat] cloudflare consumer labels blog

[Dave Collier-Brown]

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I added this comment via Hacker News

"Packet loss" is more interesting to nerds than consumers, who don't know what it means. Arguably it needs a better name.
"Delays due to retransmission" is short enough to fit the label, and is what a packet loss means _to the reader of the label_, rather than to me.

--dave


On 4/15/22 10:47, Dave Taht wrote:

"We believe that metrics beyond bandwidth such as latency and jitter
(the variance in latency) have grown appreciably in importance and
that should be reflected in policy going forward."

- https://blog.cloudflare.com/breaking-down-broadband-nutrition-labels/

It also includes a number for "typical packet loss": .08%

I miss when we could do a discussion in line with a blog, or via
email, in this case, they post urls to reddit, etc, at the end.

Follow on Twitter

David Tuber |@tubes__
Mike Conlow |@mikeconlow
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Re: [Bloat] cloudflare consumer labels blog

[Dave Taht]

thank you. I just ranted there also. Having tilted at that windmill
today, I am going to go do some real work....

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31041494

On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 9:55 AM Dave Collier-Brown
<dave.collier-brown@indexexchange.com> wrote:
>
> I added this comment via Hacker News
>
> "Packet loss" is more interesting to nerds than consumers, who don't know what it means. Arguably it needs a better name.
> "Delays due to retransmission" is short enough to fit the label, and is what a packet loss means _to the reader of the label_, rather than to me.
>
> --dave
>
>
> On 4/15/22 10:47, Dave Taht wrote:
>
> "We believe that metrics beyond bandwidth such as latency and jitter
> (the variance in latency) have grown appreciably in importance and
> that should be reflected in policy going forward."
>
> - https://blog.cloudflare.com/breaking-down-broadband-nutrition-labels/
>
> It also includes a number for "typical packet loss": .08%
>
> I miss when we could do a discussion in line with a blog, or via
> email, in this case, they post urls to reddit, etc, at the end.
>
> Follow on Twitter
>
> David Tuber |@tubes__
> Mike Conlow |@mikeconlow
> Cloudflare |Cloudflare
>
>
> --
> David Collier-Brown,         | Always do right. This will gratify
> System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest
> dave.collier-brown@indexexchange.com |              -- Mark Twain
>
>
> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE AND DISCLAIMER : This telecommunication, including any and all attachments, contains confidential information intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any dissemination, distribution, copying or disclosure is strictly prohibited and is not a waiver of confidentiality. If you have received this telecommunication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return electronic mail and delete the message from your inbox and deleted items folders. This telecommunication does not constitute an express or implied agreement to conduct transactions by electronic means, nor does it constitute a contract offer, a contract amendment or an acceptance of a contract offer. Contract terms contained in this telecommunication are subject to legal review and the completion of formal documentation and are not binding until same is confirmed in writing and has been signed by an authorized signatory.
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