From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd2e.google.com (mail-io1-xd2e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20F7A3B2A4 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 09:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-io1-xd2e.google.com with SMTP id v23so3887989iom.12 for ; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 06:36:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qGGnQ8qISKNDKxwzGhwhEtUQP5ENiUwu4cAq0CsHPZo=; b=QuYwL/NVOsqOE3A8Bb+08cfYuye6F3EkxFDgo/iDz5f2+Z9ob74zqLkS4Hk9w4TfeY a2lDSnmyHOmwcr4gzJC2x5ZhNpzWABs2dvug+NUBNZWd0AeTPwxeqjNM+NecbdL/MPaq qAsQMZXN/phDQGrx8lXx1HN4S5/ZbWq3d1aXuGRk0KFA3LOqvb7vMSgyeB/KnEvpLr+0 E13reXvNXx/mkL52LbhT2RU0nyl4DhbSZ1hgi9YNdFu0nQxqPWQI4MMINuwhWcrPihlV P1XuHmGU0g6elKHdWnp+b2uCrZEO4cr6/K7F+luEyXPquH8S6CBnb39hPX6LVEILLy5I o9eQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qGGnQ8qISKNDKxwzGhwhEtUQP5ENiUwu4cAq0CsHPZo=; b=jddncZiWfGzJArmKIbKRJkszMwa1TE+aNVbb9rYYeOT8dS49nseL82XFJg1Wt/UX0A dxqn1nPhyclbZO82ccaZoO6cUnoZZdJlPkkFr0cl1Ho5ZNmoiEaq52wqPAhqIEfbyfa4 xmBgv7ic+JnVGvMdU7Kf153y5gZAunL6zcwliouhN3Rwu/kCoJBlsWHinkMzaaX2zD6h GzwZNmFxJZPt1mCOzSSCNOdMwOYHdndNow8CIqIwRs4kcjA4ZMjBH2T4Zb6osbd2FqSk KozKiNR76XyKvdQC0QYm1AAPD9RJ1ncCQYtVIyqo4sO+xpiBCMs+b1uABE/UR/PJFs8r oeQw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530643cU2xQOcFqJR0OT+b5AlhEOhPcPVXAkg40KhqdCQh/but5e ifs+b1uypCG8Oj+uBA8gp1gX0oaGO8pIMssed6g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxkyalv2HkFP9reAX1DYsaV04+Go67L0p7EnVZxXsZal54DL3m6U9Y8GZpCR/Au3cNv/YkRySNS12MtLuBmlKU= X-Received: by 2002:a02:a314:: with SMTP id q20mr25400715jai.104.1638542196417; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 06:36:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5F0C4636-DD20-407F-9775-1FADE533DFA7@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 06:36:24 -0800 Message-ID: To: "Wheelock, Ian" Cc: Rich Brown , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] tp-link request for SQM X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 14:36:37 -0000 On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 6:30 AM Wheelock, Ian w= rote: > > I think for the last bullet in the text below, maybe change or remove the= comment completely concerning requesting a specific vendor version of the = COMCAST XB6 device, as the particular linked document, quite clearly noted = the following on Page 18 (just before next steps) > > =E2=80=9CAll Comcast DOCSIS 3.1 RDK-B-based gateway models have now been = updated with DOCSIS- PIE AQM59 and all are achieving dramatically improved = working latency.=E2=80=9D Thx. Bold, 96pt type might help. :) Some actual model numbers, more. > > > From: Bloat on behalf of Rich Brown= > Date: Friday 3 December 2021 at 13:40 > To: bloat > Subject: Re: [Bloat] tp-link request for SQM > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 3, 2021, at 7:00 AM, Dave T=C3=A4ht wrote: > > > > > > tp-link, is, so far as I know, the last major home router vendor NOT > > > shipping a SQM system. Perhaps this could be modded up with someones > > > with accounts? > > > > > > https://secure-web.cisco.com/11W91PAeuwo-7hdmnL6Jde6PdXAD3imeogsT-s7C65= Dx8I2Pu52GH6fV_uVNH9jVI_Nh2Rx3mVkAu2Ng8slvdg_9-hGV5nkDASoWcccJOZssODkfz5dQC= luVD0mgvqIPZhwxA0KzmwOQe5WWlmbcXHyIC1L1XzqEhHPCpCenRGklMC5oY_cw1XvkuR1ynlvP= JJLAlkQT44CdRcGq4TVf13XcO-nfrXbivS6r3ukba6ymIVnqMpOrAE9jMu4gN3wXcialJqG2uxC= n-YT6yId636ExtywLnOxLsdqZmZEvNhvNebWCNOTzPRsX3qVtwW1dGKAjMNGeFPAdkyntrBaD8f= w/https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.tp-link.com%2Fus%2Fhome%2Fforum%2Ftopic%2F511156 > > > > Wait... what? Other vendors are providing SQM now? Cool! > > > > How should we change the text on https://secure-web.cisco.com/17ZM6mUWyTG= tM6W6dXJch5mpXfxAoz6xcZPXEzMBhosTE82sk1FcjnoVn8sQDIbqXhz-kbp7jXMTr5CJqrqFcJ= UW6fv56C0hLL2mYTBem0WCbWIyKx2Vbl54iNQLMjhsUajbEJYoX_FwEEOME1uEYDPWpV3Iv5QPG= BKzieFMJYUrBcbIN23geFerv9GF9iU31Dtbk01Frbwff68UKfTGlHtAGwU5w9H2zjnstlUSCbGw= nDQrfov71zbXWDqN4H2XqPBFMGiOvHFa-4wC2e-gJEW4KIT2blbuoViMM8Sk-fzHiH7D3ywfNxQ= 0zXG9Iz4m5pvfSIa5B_fuA7A9dfS7EUw/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bufferbloat.net%2Fprojec= ts%2Fbloat%2Fwiki%2FWhat_can_I_do_about_Bufferbloat%2F that says: > > > > > =E2=80=A2 Install an off-the-shelf router with SQM: Several commercial = router vendors have a clue. Here is a list of those we have found: > > > > > > =E2=80=A2 IQrouter provides a good setup wizard for configuring S= QM, and automatically tunes its settings. IQrouter v3 is good to about 350 = mbps. (Version 2 was good for 200-250 mbps.) > > > =E2=80=A2 Ubiquiti gear has fq_codel settings. People say its Edg= eRouter will handle over 400 mbps. > > > =E2=80=A2 The eero mesh routers list SQM as a feature. Their thir= d generation devices support SQM at speeds up to a gigabit/second as of Nov= ember 2021. > > > =E2=80=A2 Many other mesh router vendors claim to solve bufferblo= at. Check their spec=E2=80=99s or ask them about latency. > > > =E2=80=A2 Untangle NG Firewall has fq_codel settings. > > > =E2=80=A2 ipfire.org has fq_codel settings. > > > =E2=80=A2 If you=E2=80=99re a Comcast/Xfinity customer, see if yo= u can get the XB6 / CGM4140COM cable modem that has PIE enabled. > > > Read p13 of Improving Latency with Active Queue Managemen= t (AQM) During COVID-19. for details. > > > > Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > > Bloat mailing list > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1HmA5N75d_XvnakCfiWuf63vdlwXsdLDTm7gwCww5QSn= tSsN0wavZHAzyITvZtB31x4yw5QI-UuJSpwnzBj5h3Ov-p9jwJaB_yPM-NbWUGVJrsiTF3mSGoq= 8jPYqs8V61hRoFdYfGDmoV9miQwLYONzPWSCa5J7UNi2cap1M8qSUQUFkOhtC58VPKM_CwQ-QR6= DWHMcOglyofPuK7xjZl8jlp64nx4vlRP33_x3GO2My60WYAQd39aG3NixxHnfHeVKrIL9gwAE9S= TeTo4csI7y8jDO0FdavdV1h97H9EGw8cZKUpVKy_ID7t9LgF7ekpKwHFgRSE8MYhkBWxY7XmEQ/= https%3A%2F%2Flists.bufferbloat.net%2Flistinfo%2Fbloat > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --=20 I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC