From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-it1-x12b.google.com (mail-it1-x12b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFF6A3B2A4 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 13:10:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-it1-x12b.google.com with SMTP id r135so3865612ith.1 for ; Fri, 07 Jun 2019 10:10:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rVSkMFofM/o57fCyRTOW7kcGiQQDxPSxN8oU9vntH44=; b=kst1vvW2yAmnkxZ4+Chj8JG9eKcth+bCyBpp5ztnwaqBkux7FUWSTciAbquXmRN0Ac AKvvL0zyF4H0Q4Xw2eHxI9S40Rx+g2c1qFikkf9rRwMPcC3DftTfOaKBy5GSkBsEIy2k 5sBr4EPEvuXSKoafvVYZ7UrS5MLTNoGVhiJgOMvGQ4K2l7AjBB4ssOI/z6YPL/d6lY4R lDbRiW2N0sQS4hiM6ykNISLl3FEJ/8zZWNM2OIHEOhfLBm8HktgkOY2I94DuriGqBFAl tXKScOIVGvwjVm2aoVejR7sJn+PDU3CLCZf4vuhtjdu0pHKqR/0P/uyxTLCFruakqaHD PViA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rVSkMFofM/o57fCyRTOW7kcGiQQDxPSxN8oU9vntH44=; b=ZRx+IbWrcez+5hwMRo20sF++dADhNtfo5EqklPsvqN3sGZB6MnRBHfy69o/hKocvFr z5VgZpGBPSeGxB024sZcjXARJDbULJoxlhizZVJl1f6tHkWPfIFd3Kbh9xtHNcbwn+jb LQTSPlad4HzvPXptw+S4qapSJ4LvweiHwhQZNVtCKYIKfLZD/mLt0tRECE1lENTzCXNv YUKi7N2OBgcHw5GAz+EzACnruUlMSVhMTyCaobcfCKSbVuuXJyDAHkpwxZcRnc4djxFz gGm5jm6+2yuxtLShGhJPD19LbQmm/Un7Dks4Gj01a6Mw+SKOefAihiEkTCjedwx/gXIL xl3Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWIm5FFrucvywOHVqR1V9xfF/5jlW3PbS29ZUs2X7G2tQGeZkED iFHfLZ0MuXRxuywx+tBB6YihCWe+VRNIxJ8G2oI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyNr0F+ls+1+CyxnVuyBaz6gXthvALWl1r5Q8qhWM7wqNYsqo4HCEBsT54kkbm1KX259PObQGEZbty2VupkhHY= X-Received: by 2002:a24:b343:: with SMTP id z3mr1105176iti.60.1559927449168; Fri, 07 Jun 2019 10:10:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190607093014.7b3e26af@hermes.lan> In-Reply-To: <20190607093014.7b3e26af@hermes.lan> From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2019 10:10:36 -0700 Message-ID: To: Stephen Hemminger Cc: bloat , Ivan Pepelnjak Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] Blog post: "Do packet drops matter for TCP" X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 17:10:49 -0000 On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 9:30 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > Good summary of bufferbloat from network operator point of view. Thanks stephen! > https://blog.ipspace.net/2019/06/do-packet-drops-matter-for-tcp.html?ck_s= ubscriber_id=3D182966812 One of these years ivan will mention fq_codel in a sentence. From a network operator's perspective: fq_codel ensures statistical multiplexing fq_codel ensures that congestion control algorithms across many flows fate share faster fq_codel is more robust against packet floods fq_codel is safer to use ecn with anything else? --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740