On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> wrote:

this is a FYI.

ISOC says they are full for 2013. If someone can think of another
entity to coordinate, and take some of the *outreach* load off
of JG, DT, and friends, name it..

I would like to find that entity or person(s) for sure!

I'm *done* the european tour as of today and want nothing more than to get back to california and back on coding up a ton more useful stuff (like fixing wifi and updating the ns2/ns3 models, getting better statistics, analyzing the cablelabs work, working on a pfifo_fast replacement etc)

While I enjoyed giving all the talks I just did, getting the word out in front of a wide variety of audiences, meeting cool people everywhere, and figuring out new ways to explain this stuff in response to questions... and a lot of that got filmed...

http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Bloat-videos

It seemed to be really difficult to get anywhere with a new audience in 40 minutes or less.

But in doing that and coping with the questions, I have thought up a few more graphical ways of getting the points across in some future world tour (APAC?) that *given some time with a decent artist* might compress down the ideas a little.

The longer, private talks I had all over europe were pretty good - I'm seriously encouraged by the response from various industries...

... but I'd really like to go back to hacking for a while.

On May 6, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> Welcome to the IESG, Spencer.
>
> I am putting my <operator> hat on as <mcr@novavision.ca>.
> Novavision is a boutique business ISP in Montreal, Quebec has fiber in a
> number of industrial parks. I'm the network architect and director of R&D.
> We have serious bufferbloat issues that prevent us from deploying the
> kind of service we want. In many cases I control both ends of the
> layer-3, and I could deploy whatever I want. If only I could train the
> sales engineers of my vendors...

> Awhile ago I suggested to Dan York that ISOC should consider adding
> bufferbloat to it's Deploy360-ish efforts. A key thing for me around
> bufferbloat is:
> a) convincing companies that it's real. A video hosted by
> Vint or Bob Kahn, aimed at semi-technical CTOs would help.
>
> b) having convinced them that it's real, I need to find out what
> they are doing about it, and what work arounds they might have.
>
> I suggest a well curated wiki for (b), with encouragement for
> vendors to link directly to their "knowledge bases", etc.
>
> c) some point of contact for bufferbloat issues...
> This would have to start with some kind of IETF led attempt to
> actually find out who at various companies might be in charge
> of figuring who is in charge of figuring out what the contact would
> be.
>
> Some small vendor specific background. Novavision is a Juniper partner.
> I explained that I couldn't buy a product until I had some clear
> statements about bufferbloat plans from the sales engineer. I tried to get
> the SE some contacts... I used various contacts I had @juniper.net, but
> they came up blank. They didn't know how to address this question
> either. I think that this is a industry wide problem.
>

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