From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x829.google.com (mail-qt1-x829.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::829]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A61803CB3B for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:27:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt1-x829.google.com with SMTP id n32so11180961qte.11 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 09:27:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ap5Kv5Zp3Tv9IVvBreTxn/g3/NCN26bufKFh0kL67rw=; b=DNjp2Kyi5COh/4QMZM8zeJh/Louq8l4heUhb+lu9/IGrKGov1ADj4pDfGk/pbkaNSo x95YaaBeITrJtC586FJMPaTrTsr0NXbQnLf83oo7RctEiHG+Wrx0fRmEEDUW04dhRe23 kk4e2qu6h7MVM+e9llfkhaPa5ZQVN696TkpOlMocX++0ZCbO+CDpsfzmyBT+I2s0/VMs SZi6jxbz1dG34icpnbhwKYN5MF5bYjs5dslv7bWK7MIKbfT6aMan7+1ytRlCkrRZ7sN0 JT/WrgCecEtK79VdR9xp6P/YQvYRqOPcqqqnQwaKhwgTxyuy/EDqKjMI9SFgadqamGkr k43g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ap5Kv5Zp3Tv9IVvBreTxn/g3/NCN26bufKFh0kL67rw=; b=m9g/oa9APeWRISBfnjsUSy4A0FJpTOWXIYCfHOblZW+6Zt1mpvWYD0W8r1tvtQ06NW MVIHazPgT5pq87YgpswQYFAjkRfezfncApkBF7s6In4zg3xZidzYFjzZziWr9O/Hp0F2 LCylg1ZEIBAslMpF5SSjJdfd5AI2+Q0/lcYUDt8zWP1tLEmxNNobN0BcsQllyAy1zAT8 yQYiOFFfaDFBnw3a3gzFb393FDGcxAHbF8yAVHy4R3hbrJb6fLg4iiCD9rSQmrk6hHOV Jjf426kd01aDUPt4jvqhv+jTv7Cft9YwV1ElRIcOY3DJBYaAIEgffy34En9yMuBdAl1c jX4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWYWHA7Whsz6RTMUmD748A2T7sCLfNAQPEuqcIjJgvk+ghDC3CyV 4C7HRwUUTCuzgCMp9AcoL3XikmC/eikLF4qbaL8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/WGgEIKzP7OTqsszTqvGT6d1A7QBXax5gv3ij5j6nlOGZRXvbfN4S708olzkJMzdqCf6R9MgObGw4rEKQp6L8w= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:420a:: with SMTP id k10mr15369890qvp.206.1542994075079; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 09:27:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6C1479A8-43E8-4F89-BCEA-1D28CA3E8589@heistp.net> <87r2fbzrng.fsf@taht.net> <8F4997E9-B7A3-4095-8183-89CCC53E11AB@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 09:27:42 -0800 Message-ID: To: Luca MUSCARIELLO Cc: Jonathan Morton , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] one benefit of turning off shaping + fq_codel X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 17:27:55 -0000 On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 9:17 AM Luca Muscariello wrote: > > Yes there was some discussion about that. > Moving things to hardware should fix that. > > Evens traffic management in NPU based routers makes use of hardware based= polling for shaping. These are trade offs one has to face all the time. > > There has been a discussion at the defense about hardware vs software, ha= rdware + software, when one, when the other. I'm still listening/watching. > > BTW Toke is Doctor Toke now :-) I hope you made him sweat, at least a little. :) > > > > On Fri 23 Nov 2018 at 17:48, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> Ahhh.... good. My morning has improved. I found the coffee, and I have >> something way more interesting that CNN on. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dupvx6rpSLSw&feature=3Dyoutu.be >> >> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:43 AM Jonathan Morton = wrote: >> > >> > > On 23 Nov, 2018, at 6:26 pm, Dave Taht wrote: >> > > >> > >> (I noticed an audience member brought this up in Toke=E2=80=99s the= sis >> > >> defense) >> > > >> > > I sadly slept through that. I hope it was recorded. >> > >> > As it was streamed on YT, YT archived it. >> > >> > - Jonathan Morton >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Bloat mailing list >> > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Dave T=C3=A4ht >> CTO, TekLibre, LLC >> http://www.teklibre.com >> Tel: 1-831-205-9740 >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740