This is where things stood on the wifi front, back in 2016. Nobody understood us... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Se36svYE1Uzpppe1HWnEyat_sAGghB3kE285LElJBW4/edit# So I sort of enjoyed re-reading that this morning, and all the enthusiastic commentary we'd had on it. Perhaps we can reshape it and find ways to move forward today? I am happy to have seen so many products hitting the market 5+ years later that leverage this work, many openwrt derived, like evenroute, quantum, and openwifi, others from pure linux, like eero and google fiber, and so far as I can tell, in many a chromebook, and of course ios and osx. Still, there was so much work left to be done, and the work applied to all forms of wireless technology, be it 6 or 12ghz, or 60ghz, or starlink. Just the other day I was watching a 5G engineer that was struggling to get decent simultaneous throughput up and down, the test tool showing that, but not the 25 seconds of buffering built into the rmnet driver in poor conditions, and "only" 150ms perfect ones. This test tool shows "perfect" throughput for this device: https://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg865852.html (anyone know which tool it was? see image here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gSbozrtd9h0X63i6vdkNpN68d-9sg8f9/view ) vs the actual, underlying, unusable 25 seconds!!! - result - if only that test tool attempted to start up even one more flow partially through the test, perhaps we'd be getting somewhere. An increasingly favorite test of mine is the staggered start "squarewave" tests in the flent suite. For those that haven't tried it, crusader is the first tool I've seen that not only has a staggered start latency under load test, but as its written in rust, runs on every OS in the planet. Give it a shot? https://github.com/Zoxc/crusader/releases/tag/v0.0.9-testing -- This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC