From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pl1-x62a.google.com (mail-pl1-x62a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::62a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3309E3B2A4; Thu, 29 Jun 2023 11:22:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pl1-x62a.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-1b80b3431d2so4651735ad.1; Thu, 29 Jun 2023 08:22:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1688052147; x=1690644147; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=N0JwkivweEQBnIkgcOKDyZIns4HBAqRauqPHBgtd06s=; b=G53MXCDpJxCO40nDMCOIUsJ3eAPZk+ruvkJhDo1x04zUeEnwDyVdFtYDiFtV/Y8wuH gY2L7Px+iYfdirtUEsRSfU05nc8ik88j3o5Pzf25yKm+yOapheA4qrS7vnoA44Ie7CDq 5O4r5bttCPoztey9eTL4DFE1Y4HCECMA5Wr9pOuWBgHrBdrgi4+z+qhsYc16J9+AnrU+ VBSdhDLTGh6KHNWYx27h/AEXtGciR/Kt15EOXBd4Qveeq2io4+1kIIwpEt7xB4qx9KW7 rKy7qhyEz044ykCWfG3SjVVqslyTF9KETVJVsomuCDzFt20QBoEr6R3IxmJnmq1t6Yak jubA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1688052147; x=1690644147; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=N0JwkivweEQBnIkgcOKDyZIns4HBAqRauqPHBgtd06s=; b=fYqVJtccMT3hAqqtA8+biEbDa1SJRicBm+fjVr9QjrB7dgZL985egfQbKPgXNBxRyk BvTRQnAxtzXM29lgNzQaquMrA2rJ3kle0fJgeVRjcQg4BAa+v+qq0RU+WP+QUvyCqk8j OEnLCs2Dgh9PTJltRQT9wz34oPxkgEdclLJZxBI4qiPdtML9EWzuED2qIqECLpAra6tu YuYhm4ar/RCV90pl7PDPgxocs9MbPo0zJFSF3tACl2YEhCUnZLDjR6Bn6ivcZq0FANzG Y4sMqAeMY80ywksrFO5m9G9TqxUQaLQDttKAsVP1UpExSdfFLblYGox2tAkgTDjeG97W gLSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLaztHlL6tB9Gq7ioZY2/fY1bayhC2xYjSdVLGyNalc+L9omXdPB aYz2JJiKFHeIO6iqVHR2fOP/1PoUmHQYTzHVz3979Wp/vPpmTg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlGkuBNOmg1fn9bJLa2TJX1wwlTHkMEqIlU6YxAd7DrJLR541bpqAtPJiswUzziEvPBkcNN+ALawQe1voFPUVJ4= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:d792:b0:263:71f0:1569 with SMTP id z18-20020a17090ad79200b0026371f01569mr260298pju.3.1688052146722; Thu, 29 Jun 2023 08:22:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 09:22:14 -0600 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht via Starlink , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] If only we could cross the chasm X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 15:22:28 -0000 on all the intertubes... https://preseem.com/2023/06/how-to-reduce-latency-for-isps-and-subscribers= / While I do embrace the need for a middlebox on the down, the home wifi really needs fq_codel running directly on it too, and cake on the up... I really wish somehow, someday, I could sit across a six pack of beer from a spacex engineer with a cross compiler for the dishy... I am really tickled that the majority of devices I have encountered on my trip to nicaragua are either running fq_codel or are sanely buffered in the first place. --=20 Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227= 111937/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos