From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x131.google.com (mail-lf1-x131.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 761593CB40 for ; Wed, 31 May 2023 23:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x131.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-4f4d6aee530so276335e87.2 for ; Wed, 31 May 2023 20:46:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1685591163; x=1688183163; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=DUd8o+zbeRIZB9oD7crJkUQpDUsXrGhUT2HNk82GpI8=; b=NRcRLgHqTuXj3aFYdMJ+aasUF17whyBt/51fhXqnwuuK4lLL3zmPui61ebG6cToTzg Ctn8woDPjv3BmEp4o5lsi6BlIAxzxKRbOqetoNJMCpgBxL13BZWxu3pr8cQsWqD5PXYW hLPtNjNSVEIoiqw6WiJX5RlphTsww0WXDzDHc0yYGyMjDlZBUay3cod/AmGmHgc9I5Da OF6S9e6/1WAXF1TGUG6wGcP/9nX6Y6GhDGKqWEpSOaImYOYQOxS7/R6vutXY0W5N7Btw ll/iXUxF90TZiH1ceq+2r1o9YqHACrQLt371Dt8+x/Zkm2PjMU+eWSkQ0waee1Rdv7EK 2okQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1685591163; x=1688183163; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=DUd8o+zbeRIZB9oD7crJkUQpDUsXrGhUT2HNk82GpI8=; b=Mg7+BPbB7Zp+iO2yqyu6hBlDh9DhdRxCnlGIsnZCG5CpBPLaVqVL4maIx6oNAvUf3k TCQLklrnlCCXWDOZ7clYy8FSIlkMaH4SZSTVD8jEYnNZb3nRZK44DfucBFqYiOwaSwHo UXR6OQsyyRRmr58Jn4jxglLAgr6SIibJihDY05L3/d9F5O1Ov6G20zqr+3uUV9E3qmI+ 8mAKzCkw+PVaryw4VxcZIR68p4eSEOwJjom0JPx8Zd1W3/nOaUl9FT38Q4CRH6tv0PYk I2H7m38SEW/2ZZFB1td8xJhqAu9ufNFkmy26zFvpCVA0J1SR+ppa0jMrANxcwQFJ2duh 0y4g== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDyuktXbyV5rozRoTFR70yvtHoCu2DySTaUR50sVUjNsEyhz30Cu v8LTGoqaewX6ptOflk88fnp9B69eU8i7mPoGvc2rdfd2 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ7SsWusG3vuZwG9G3HM89hZ7q7VkHPTqqvvb8LvF7HfKVF9g1TnXntSXqzmWAruP4YIVSw49mXi3K+U3BzID7g= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:5615:0:b0:4f3:b520:e0af with SMTP id v21-20020ac25615000000b004f3b520e0afmr501165lfd.13.1685591162848; Wed, 31 May 2023 20:46:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0cc6592d-702f-05fb-f093-71cbda228f23@fau.de> <9c5eb36f-f2d3-9016-19c8-dea00e5793f5@fau.de> In-Reply-To: <9c5eb36f-f2d3-9016-19c8-dea00e5793f5@fau.de> From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 20:03:29 -0600 Message-ID: To: Joerg Deutschmann Cc: bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007f8a6205fd094655" Subject: Re: [Bloat] hystart++ X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 03:46:04 -0000 --0000000000007f8a6205fd094655 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The puzzling thing is turning off pacing in these implementations... On Tue, May 30, 2023, 9:31 AM Joerg Deutschmann via Bloat < bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > And of course some QUIC implementations have HyStart++, e.g., > https://blog.cloudflare.com/cubic-and-hystart-support-in-quiche/ > > > On 30.05.23 17:27, Joerg Deutschmann via Bloat wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > > > some brief information regarding HyStart++ on Windows: > > > https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/networking-blog/algorithmic-improvements-boost-tcp-performance-on-the-internet/ba-p/2347061 > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/113/materials/slides-113-tcpm-draft-ietf-tcpm-hystartplusplus-04-00 > > > > AFAIK, there is no Linux implementation for HyStart++, only HyStart: > > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/networking/snmp_counter.html#tcp-hybrid-slow-start > > (but I would be interested if there was a HyStart++ implementation for > > Linux; also there are several papers about HyStart but not HyStart++) > > > > And HyStart++ should be available in FreeBSD: > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D33035 > > > https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=653cf466f08584c0fd87bc336cdc1db08f0d4434 > > > > Best regards, > > Joerg > > > > > > On 28.05.23 14:46, Dave Taht via Bloat wrote: > >> Does a linux implementation of this exist? It looks promising... > >> > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9406 > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bloat mailing list > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > --0000000000007f8a6205fd094655 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The puzzling thing is turning off pacing in these impleme= ntations...

On Tue, May 30, 2023, 9:31 AM Joerg Deutschmann via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
And of course some QUI= C implementations have HyStart++, e.g.,
https://blog.cloudflare.c= om/cubic-and-hystart-support-in-quiche/


On 30.05.23 17:27, Joerg Deutschmann via Bloat wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> some brief information regarding HyStart++ on Windows:
> https://techcommunity.microso= ft.com/t5/networking-blog/algorithmic-improvements-boost-tcp-performance-on= -the-internet/ba-p/2347061
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/113/materials/slid= es-113-tcpm-draft-ietf-tcpm-hystartplusplus-04-00
>
> AFAIK, there is no Linux implementation for HyStart++, only HyStart: > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/networking/snmp_counter.html#tc= p-hybrid-slow-start
> (but I would be interested if there was a HyStart++ implementation for=
> Linux; also there are several papers about HyStart but not HyStart++)<= br> >
> And HyStart++ should be available in FreeBSD:
> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D33035
> ht= tps://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3D653cf466f08584c0fd87bc336cdc1db08f0= d4434
>
> Best regards,
> Joerg
>
>
> On 28.05.23 14:46, Dave Taht via Bloat wrote:
>> Does a linux implementation of this exist? It looks promising... >>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/ht= ml/rfc9406
>>
>
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