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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
Cc: "Luis A. Cornejo" <luis.a.cornejo@gmail.com>,
	bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Dual WAN home router with decent SQM?
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 10:24:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw5FJBFp9z=syM-XaJji=sYUDdeEGyN0smmNjK8Tq4Bgsw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <o0n09012-ooop-0p92-64q2-7913927r39q7@ynat.uz>

we invented "source specific routing", for ipv6, (now called SADR)
during the cerowrt project and it has been part of openwrt ever since.
Two or more ipv6 upstreams will distribute their /subnet to the
downstream. Regrettably, few protocols or end user applications
attempt to leverage these disparate address spaces, although multipath
tcp and quic have become more common.

On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 10:20 AM David Lang via Bloat
<bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> you aren't going to bond two differnt ISPs for faster upload.
>
> you may setup tunnels over each of the ISPs and bond them together.
>
> Even with a full BGP link, any given connection is very unlikely to use both
> ISPs.
>
> David Lang
>
> On Mon, 5 Jun 2023, Luis A. Cornejo wrote:
>
> > I’ve done the multi wan with mwan3 and it works fine for load balance or
> > failover.
> >
> > But if you are trying to improve your upload then the best you can get is
> > one upload vs the other. You won’t get both uploads to the same stream,
> > that is bonding, which is a little harder to do.
> >
> > -Luis
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 9:35 AM David Lang via Bloat <
> > bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >
> >> any router that you can run OpenWRT on will do the job
> >> look at the mwan3 package to mange the multiple ISPs
> >>
> >> at 100Mb, you don't need an especially beefy router.
> >>
> >> David Lang
> >>
> >> On Sun, 4 Jun 2023, John D
> >> via Bloat wrote:
> >>
> >>> Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2023 09:48:21 +0100
> >>> From: John D via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> >>> Reply-To: John D <j.w.r.dexter@gmail.com>
> >>> To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> >>> Subject: [Bloat] Dual WAN home router with decent SQM?
> >>>
> >>> I want to set up a new home router with SQM support to alleviate (mostly
> >>> upload) bloat.
> >>> However I would also like dual ISP support, more for backup/failover than
> >>> load sharing.
> >>> I can see affordable multi wan "load balancer" routers eg TP-link, and
> >>> affordable SQM routers such as ubiquity Edgerouter, but I'm struggling to
> >>> find a single device providing both.
> >>> Just after any advice on a) am I better having two separate components b)
> >>> if so any suggestions which product/brand?
> >>> Two devices means more configuration but possibly more flexible and
> >> cheaper.
> >>>
> >>> My internet speed is looking to max out around 100/20mbps so I don't need
> >>> Gbit performance. Thanks for any help.
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-05 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-04  8:48 John D
2023-06-04 13:07 ` Nils Andreas Svee
2023-06-04 13:57   ` John D
2023-06-04 14:22     ` Nils Andreas Svee
2023-06-04 14:35 ` David Lang
2023-06-05 16:06   ` Luis A. Cornejo
2023-06-05 16:20     ` David Lang
2023-06-05 16:24       ` Dave Taht [this message]
2023-06-05 18:25     ` John D
2023-06-05 18:53       ` David Lang

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