From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ia0-f175.google.com (mail-ia0-f175.google.com [209.85.210.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47553208AAD; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:52:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ia0-f175.google.com with SMTP id z3so7331384iad.34 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:52:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bPo7jq56vsfVrV5gXVfS/iEZtP+8Ws1/KdCuk8NqtPg=; b=E+clhYWlJEHuCv3dnpiN/b7fy2xPvg2jCqUyC/2NjZsElZjFovaFvIAPVopHLAgWBc /AaWVA1TCNc+mmxwN1yFKBIUOXP+Np0dcDkG/gJWeLOYa7kks6pvtUNnch8zeH5HZskX 03kt7KRQvfgjpzVRsvE3oeIFEYnHMTkpe/35sI6OgD+irTvuDZC3xQMnsDTOVrGRKaNI UM/WP4NbTfh+U5/uPb8yoh1MT5uiFp272S3i6I7uZtgaIOEZ6s1bcRInqjeCzY/QHwy2 dxWbpDtysxL60uQoOCITnu+XyzhzEYclmgDnClf/Mx3CbjXoGDlNFXvOtfq6iLcxZQC9 zogw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.158.201 with SMTP id ww9mr11004037igb.22.1355248363485; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.135.39 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:52:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1355245195.27891.108.camel@edumazet-glaptop> References: <1355245195.27891.108.camel@edumazet-glaptop> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:52:43 +0100 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Eric Dumazet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] TCP TFO client behaviour X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:52:44 -0000 > > I really wonder why this is sent to these lists instead of netdev ? In my case I find it impossible to read netdev on a regular basis, with the size of the traffic and the unbelievable patch burden - (not that I can't filter it, but that fairly often I find a patch too tempting to not apply and then play with) I have no problem taking a conversation to netdev if needed... However I'd note that TCP fast open is not just a linux feature, but affects the entire internet. Perhaps the readership here has a more broad view of how this should be approached. Ketan has been busily adding support for TFO to a couple tools used in cerowrt. (httping is already out there in a release!) It's my hope to be able to sanely test it in cerowrt's 3.7.x release. I also am concerned about TFO wider adoption into other tools like these (ssh? dns?) and what those effects might be. I'm probably dropping the syn optimization in simple_qos.sh because of tcp fast open. But I would prefer to gather data and test, first, with good tools. Are there any other tools besides chrome and httpping setup for clients? I look forward to trying out the polipo support. > > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --=20 Dave T=E4ht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.= html