From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-it1-x133.google.com (mail-it1-x133.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 157AB3B2A4 for ; Wed, 29 May 2019 21:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-it1-x133.google.com with SMTP id t184so7318000itf.2 for ; Wed, 29 May 2019 18:30:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mkSP++KL1FdEgAhiAMwrMydanha6tbqQb13gQCIPMv8=; b=pB0raU6prY8UsyM1vxAhx/7WXUePeewMzvFQ/LAcEp+NHv9cvjq+CzqSPJ3WkcZOq7 4/0ONQJ2utV0A8EeUVt946ejp0HRb9A6S18bKmh2Ft7b1HhqwT/oj8xWiM9GBUjWlUxl S7zfmoLTajCm7cJiPQhucPghLhg+O+qfdWYAn6srtLNVP2van5DDvL9HFeO4r6FnKVAF vucZDMJlK/0srNXtXT7V/hd7HkZIR1FI5ycj4OtwZG2gmzpLfonwLjzFK6kRNMcFsQaD ZaHlZzQxXghgb0/oPnArBmdOpSpZfDa5jJJbD8m8pL3kH2ozgi4pfs4Xn2Wt/wWefvgO k5dg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mkSP++KL1FdEgAhiAMwrMydanha6tbqQb13gQCIPMv8=; b=q6RXfvcMS79g1wO2DccPVveF7WYGO+wYqDmWVOe5RaeoMN2xLVD+Ung7Wnjn1Ef6yU LjVa2chuS9H9tr0M/jFTY5ORMVGU7rUQSUP36Y6Db888IK+3is452SImyOOg0ACy5EiQ bQv/b5otEEEuKpdQiZKUZc0d+3oJJkf3FFyuvK76R7dE76TwcGmZQzuQ5kdDzjb6YZM/ NGMSAiOAOgawIlADJMO0r18nbYmfO6tHTuAgodW58lwGk+zJlZ6m5EFTP4Wl6m+k2V+e 8aq8jUmo+aaQfGaVydiDtjYtYOVKQuHhPaAMhN+pj+CKI+a/C47KMPx61PfFMcxxXvBg JTpQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVJlwR7iAXOPz3s/NQ+jNzF4pEz/KeHukTyDrVwAaDz6NBlAPM9 5JOs+UvUKUx6ja52eAQT/xjk+O3vrNV2Ej05XA4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyaMd0R4gWJJAhgUkU9M4F4iT8O0VkPVxa+ziJ1DtpWixSmCj0pv4ICadgBnGQzlMU/irh2ZngMQ+sJOY9RLsg= X-Received: by 2002:a02:3407:: with SMTP id x7mr500833jae.61.1559179848488; Wed, 29 May 2019 18:30:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <877eagyvd5.fsf@toke.dk> <87lfyo6aeg.fsf@taht.net> In-Reply-To: <87lfyo6aeg.fsf@taht.net> From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 18:30:36 -0700 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: =?UTF-8?B?VG9rZSBIw7hpbGFuZC1Kw7hyZ2Vuc2Vu?= , bloat , Grenville Armitage , thuang@netflix.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] Netflix presentation about bloat at RIPE78 X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 01:30:49 -0000 I was puzzling over their results, and trying to duplicate them, when I hit slide 17 Buffering 500ms down / {200,500}ms up ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Methinks inbound shaping with fq_codel might also be a good test! On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:42 PM Dave Taht wrote: > > > "This is present on many routers, it is just not turned on yet". > > :) > > I didn't know what "VMAF" was before I saw this. > > https://github.com/Netflix/vmaf > > I *like* it. > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740