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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no>
Cc: Jesper Louis Andersen <jesper.louis.andersen@gmail.com>,
	 Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Seen in passing: mention of Valve's networking scheme and RFC 5348
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 07:42:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw5Z=cAOfNtuJyYrjJviucWRZK628mVearkPH3rzifrEDw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0ED5B59A-5C31-4F70-A2C9-04D9EA779A7B@ifi.uio.no>

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How dead is posix these days? Ietf does not generally do apis well.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018, 9:14 AM Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> wrote:

>
> On Apr 3, 2018, at 4:48 PM, Jesper Louis Andersen <
> jesper.louis.andersen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:27 PM Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
>
>> please, please, people, take a look at the ietf taps (“transport
>> services”) working group  :-)
>>
>>
> I tried looking it up. It seems the TAPS WG is about building a consistent
> interface to different protocols in order to get a new interface rather
> than, say, the bsd socket interface.
>
> But my search turned up several drafts from the WG. Did you have one in
> particular in mind?
>
>
> Thanks for taking a look!
> Indeed, it’s about a consistent interface - I was provoked to send this
> message by the reference to ossification, and talk of messages (lacking in
> TCP).
> Sure, when you’re in control of both ends of a connection, you can build
> whatever you want on top of UDP - but there’s a lot of wheel re-inventing
> there. Really, the transport layer can’t change as long as applications (or
> their libraries) are exposed to only the services of TCP and UDP, and
> thereby statically bound to these transport protocols.
>
> I think I’d recommend this draft as a starting point:
> https://taps-api.github.io/drafts/draft-trammell-taps-interface.html
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-04-04  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <tag:www.oreilly.com, 2018-04-02:/ideas/four-short-links-2-april-2018@localhost.localdomain>
2018-04-02 12:46 ` David Collier-Brown
2018-04-03 11:54   ` Jesper Louis Andersen
2018-04-03 12:14     ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-03 12:35       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-04-03 14:27         ` Michael Welzl
2018-04-03 14:48           ` Jesper Louis Andersen
2018-04-03 15:04             ` Jim Gettys
2018-04-04 12:45               ` Jesper Louis Andersen
2018-04-04 13:39                 ` David Collier-Brown
2018-04-03 16:14             ` Michael Welzl
2018-04-04  7:01               ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-04-04  7:42               ` Dave Taht [this message]
2018-04-04  7:55                 ` Michael Welzl
2018-04-04  8:53                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-04-04  8:52                 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-04-04  9:56                   ` Luca Muscariello
2018-04-04 10:52                     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-04-04 11:06                       ` Luca Muscariello
2018-04-05  0:04                         ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2018-04-04 19:23                 ` Michael Richardson
2018-04-04 19:38                   ` Michael Welzl
2018-04-05  0:08                     ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner

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