From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x22b.google.com (mail-ob0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF89A21F225; Sun, 1 Mar 2015 15:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ob0-f171.google.com with SMTP id gq1so28022868obb.2; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 15:22:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3UmJRbkEkVaIWbv2iTiZ/lKlI4kwoQCagaO5wDPOlNM=; b=ejmicat5UB5g6Jh1EXZQbG+U/IL/cOaBSi6laVzWLyX5z7jqQpHCYKSgT6WQGiHSHf JTNSfnqWJtkf0DXKXH93KujqFBYCKgB0KfZAFPROtxZUyItfDdeCnRTinzm4n8sdH6MN 0WLocrkdV3ILwFvj5ghd8vFRcbD6ID4o258EE/iOHWNl+adpSTlxd6aIh9Gm7u+7yaPo NSGr8ym+YGR3Mqb/muL95Uk3g6h9IGRg1x7r+p36ErBDy2HBL1WcPwGiGpJQ2kpf9sqK Bec9Ldt+yQmP+t8CR4Gx5w/jFWZIDeK5zR/KnbdaAfdMZ2uTlJBwukKKvJyLnHPeeL2D wBpw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.1.202 with SMTP id 10mr17297062obo.56.1425252162460; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 15:22:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.51.66 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Mar 2015 15:22:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 15:22:42 -0800 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: bloat , "aqm@ietf.org" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] Bufferbloat and the policy debate on packet loss in nanog X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2015 23:23:12 -0000 There's nothing new here, but it was a nice rant to get out of my system: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.operators.nanog/128201 Of late, I have been taking a page from Linus Torvalds' playbook, in realizing that "on the internet, no-one can hear you being subtle", and BOY, am I done with that. --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again! https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/TVX3o84jjmb