From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x134.google.com (mail-il1-x134.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64B083B29E for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2021 20:15:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-il1-x134.google.com with SMTP id k2so16524474ili.4 for ; Mon, 01 Mar 2021 17:15:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MgqGwH3mSKnYdyh8T7QO54Sv0pfNTY6rlndYk5NBJdM=; b=s1jNwAsCd7vg/fuMc+WMKmCPzWh7y7qI3NGcy8hXez9Pj7Lyl4Xud0vW3cG8AZeNgM klDuK6E2jSrqAR7NGMog4NUSGiCozkbbj7Kwpo1UskEACZXpdQn3bAORzyIbeK/mSab+ rVCBbaoVyZgiU4+tT9Qt1hyMLpcoY11Z0XAAJAxRpETUWgPUmM12QFNCF65NiaiUr3Ld EAUHuW/RZbr5qNG5JAXHKpZXmrxFTAvjVnDCt1iZfye/K3bWI/NLSdReg/xiiwxDmPWr h/ZB2Sm3DIFPrXrEsxUhDebc4mNiK0VaYTcxKeKk3MiaM+vIqwmVN/LTh92ZDbiKJvMe 7PVw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MgqGwH3mSKnYdyh8T7QO54Sv0pfNTY6rlndYk5NBJdM=; b=HVxUAB3dh3zSGMfHXv7VNAJx/Z+AAHUqDwHqZCpJVvDP22MszIS90RDyhwm1LulLST frJhgpKaxx+djJRYCNWx2gwWUVr12BbMur3kACglPddWfiYpAHaKfdwB/r0Gn6mvgT62 YSPfpaYEt/pM2bo1q3OD+JOM7uYAEGHDQTewO+BcpuWgJDC+zCFbPmlHcv3Xur1cs4o2 vOEv4IJmEYMGCL01FQLiaKjpZLYXdE0KWd4KIJWZ72x29giMW6lI12BuGY+wCMhWean5 s8DSD+HOwM9zgYz2OzOFhwm8BMAHsbw/ZDQH8snwILljSZoF7YSWRX4A8KMsK5sdGdv8 w2tw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532f/xm7WtX53xigkPttlSCbHdlCETdI34Vh16qA1+B5F+lwK3Re tY2QVQ3lcgqmV0z7iI6KenzIxaG9V1mCN0gmk5wUBzqHxP0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwwAZ7wqMfUyeTEbqRRxMhVC4uZ9vNjD/+iZpObieMyxV+2VYPkr2SlMVuW7Lhev0iM749Y/mU7xW5N1rsryPU= X-Received: by 2002:a92:da11:: with SMTP id z17mr14762914ilm.45.1614647704541; Mon, 01 Mar 2021 17:15:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 17:14:53 -0800 Message-ID: To: bloat , galene@lists.galene.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] testing latency under load on webrtc with galene? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2021 01:15:05 -0000 Given that we have a worldwide network of flent servers... Given how easy galene is to hack on... and a 10 minute install... given some webrtc scripting... a few more stats... some javascript... skull sweat... funding... It seems plausible to be able to construct a suite of tests that could indeed track jitter delay and loss across the internet over webrtc. Perpetually uploading bigbuckbunny or some other suitable movie might be an option, but I have a fondness for extracting a sub 30 second segment from "Max Headroom", which if those here have not seen it, predicted much of the fine mess we're all in now. I guess my question is mostly, is a "headless" test feasible? In the context of samknow's lack of webrtc test... lowpowered hw.... --=20 "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman dave@taht.net CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729