From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-we0-f171.google.com (mail-we0-f171.google.com [74.125.82.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B24E42021A8; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by weyx43 with SMTP id x43so3683784wey.16 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:44:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=c3jhk97sThBpUX3wu0zSYqs0cth0nCIz8DDvNDL3aMo=; b=ap4S+eY60+8q3GEhzyx1rXIdtFgn1+M/aG0uH0pmUU3XivlAD4spVwFUOEtnI4ycvK xeHrU/U1bGMB0RYnZda1qlxKDynJwNHBby4gjKHnwZ+KjzJmPLsYbtHmVsqi00FPsXKX 26aQX+X+H7hQfvWbtDnmiQvxnYfgFY98moXP0yaGbWEh23Iy1nnLU2YUgjAv5o86BHXN hoWzxkIOmfw8mXvKBfQYbOLZV7YZiTuuH3t0//A0kJ1bT5G/s+Wxtb+vhdKQgOCmx08U AdoKoAaIqS13dVSdpACuNjgnNvtDPY5RG7V26rJtYNTJ9spnY6zMnxskmydD447LL8nu ieZg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.98.138 with SMTP id ei10mr7383511wib.1.1344735859150; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.167.3 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 03:44:18 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: bloat , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] router chipset selection for cero-2 X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 01:44:22 -0000 I can't remember with whom I was talking to about alternatives to mips for home router processors, but this is the first new one I've seen in the arm world that comes close to being one... http://electronicdesign.com/article/digital/dualcore-cortexa9-tackles-commu= nication-gateway-chores-74092 Most of the new arms are targetted at the burgeoning handheld markets. A router has no use for video and a big use for pci busses and multiple ethernet chips, which the handheld targetted chips usually don't have... All that said, the arm ecosystem appears to be healthier than the mips ecosystem, overall. The marvell kirkwood (dreamplug) is getting long in the tooth, the octeon is too expensive (and the cool onboard hardware locked away with binary blobs), the various atheros chipsets I'm aware of a little too weak, the broadcoms a little too proprietary, and perhaps this new chip from mindspeed would be "just right". So... Anyone know about the comcerto 2000, or of anything else out there? I figure cerowrt's ar71xx chipset currently has less than 18 months of market life left to it. While I would hope to have finished fixing the home router market by then, deploying fq_codel, getting ipv6 made default, solving the naming problems, deploying dnssec, etc and genericall fixing all the head-ends and the rest of the known internet universe, etc, I'm not planning on it. :) So thinking about what next piece of open, and more powerful hardware to complete the research/work with is starting to weigh on my mind. Big Goals: Faster, better, not cheaper Open source in all core components 802.11ac Hardware rng Capable of gigE ipv6 *routing* Capable of being hooked to various advanced interfaces (gpon, cable, adsl) --=20 Dave T=E4ht http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki - "3.3.8-6 is out with fq_codel!"