From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x12d.google.com (mail-il1-x12d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2ACAB3B29E for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 02:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-il1-x12d.google.com with SMTP id i16so13658891ils.12 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 23:10:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BFiWihwPR48yjyHHMPAGqplgdgiwvwmoHag/+RCxqlg=; b=AEaN2iEsnlG14j9O/CTmgKNeQfhDQYC4g082RG551SjDU6KoMEeeTdE4v187N75NDf CwJNbZpfOwxxMqL0R7FwrF3jVYX92qIs/vGpmfWP9VNH65G+syJuicV63hQzZ0emHueS N/8W5SQGDUhNlXxK2bdMQCh6miry6aJmTZpOX/hlmq+A95Jjg8u3I20BykUUvV0424w/ phtAMASpOwDW+rzl/Z0FBkUNT6c3lku1Qk1a0UPMUPAenRf7KIR6TaXnjdUvjA7J/XUZ Gar6yzQMx9e6bgUFYWoys/FXHbk0HFOU84Y48/23idbeAz9oRAwuLJLHRD0zJJF5uYzn fxhA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BFiWihwPR48yjyHHMPAGqplgdgiwvwmoHag/+RCxqlg=; b=WA2ClvEpCvb8wne0tndrJiBlXoEbfKmY2roIqA4uz7pKLiJlFkNa7CO7D6PkIvcnR1 HxPPX/G8oeghLX3lIzoonrVIgvRRylMcmPmnCPHaAD2YW/Uu9/EB1vewWLV80ddqILWC BKdRoZ3YVxM1meDAK6+UoKD1aHua402qmZdlcOZu9EN6jGhD2nYJCNjhWu4N6FKYAlzj 9okbleUR/7fRxzBIhAkK03d9Eb8W3Fs/ZzBLKXwO7rM7jEG+fI5jYcn7kTMGA3geCy+G B/rxIqCZrxr7g+vPHmfvEccJSl4NkJMgOXJSBmOpatzrHfB1Te7niTe5c1ifAHYt6pic Gmdw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuagcsA1yR7YTIbAoTksagz673l973u0igPRhkhFqlEYccp+trhw GGigw0uoKTV0xgHRxeB1paeumKC4foPslTjKoGU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKYN5lfQapJwllYLNEE5oNCTSCgdd8qfIRFCHtX3U/s2G6WqjQffXMSgStxcGhbE75TGYhmrRuZ9eLKA3poZyU= X-Received: by 2002:a92:dccf:: with SMTP id b15mr15383260ilr.246.1587881434284; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 23:10:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5a1f165e-9d0e-af9b-5be2-15d805cfa0b5@lackof.org> <20200424054932.GA3180192@laniakea> <295FB76E-FCC5-4474-97F4-969AA7DB7DF4@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <295FB76E-FCC5-4474-97F4-969AA7DB7DF4@gmx.de> From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 23:10:23 -0700 Message-ID: To: Sebastian Moeller Cc: Hagen Paul Pfeifer , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] ubuntu 20.4 is out X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 06:10:35 -0000 I added my comments to the bug. On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 1:50 AM Sebastian Moeller wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > On Apr 24, 2020, at 07:49, Hagen Paul Pfeifer wrote: > > > > * Matt Taggart | 2020-04-23 15:47:19 [-0700]: > > > >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D890343#34 > >> > >> If you have anything to add concernting changing this (or other defaul= ts) > >> please mail that bug. Let's get Debian up to date! > > > > +1 > > > > Yes Dave, I think it's time to boost this bug report. Can you give your > > comments and objections to the use of fifo fast? I think a little bit p= ressure > > here and there and you will finally make many Debian users happier! ;-) > > > > I don't know if the discussion will arise that fq_codel will not be the > > perfect fit for everybody, thus the use of "safer pfifo_fast". I think = we > > So pfifo_fast employs a static precedence system in which high pr= iority traffic can completely starve lower priority traffic, that is the op= posite of safe, by virtue of that feature alone pfifo_fast should be relega= ted to those specific cases where such behaviour is desired instead of fori= ng it upon the unwashed and enexpecting messes, no? > > Best Regards > Sebastian > > > > > should take care of the average user, professionals using Debian alread= y know > > what to configure and how - here we should focus on the average user (L= aptop, > > Desktop). > > > > hgn > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bloat mailing list > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --=20 Make Music, Not War Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-435-0729