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http://ccr.sigcomm.org/archive/1995/jan95/ccr-9501-moguleth.pdf

I especially liked where they denounced a whole string of others'
assumptions and simplified models.

"There's a reason ethernet is why it is."

I'd never met him. RIP.

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