From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x32e.google.com (mail-wm1-x32e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FD9B3B29D for ; Wed, 31 May 2023 23:45:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x32e.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-3f6da07ff00so3953165e9.3 for ; Wed, 31 May 2023 20:45:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1685591158; x=1688183158; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=NKvniQonIT3VNBkmrlmZt4flqwRIS0vJv5TVC/mGmno=; b=dKWCa24r2PTcdPtWBfUJxK7Y2RlqxZuCoS/GHvi/hpgPvHSkz0vwUPssyTSY5BMvQL 29VUOpYaKCyD0Boj2vBnO2QFnZ/4XrDPTmSykwRHA7wsiroy4WNVNifLPKg5Iv2knKl5 JluYqRDHCtR78ZNyWnLNOKWFY0+lbXFhGQztzRJBkb5+z6OK2DH+mpbMPtz8Wpv9tjJR GuiPZfJj6SW8yRFel7Uor4pRzfeuBHaXGdexjppvq6wiEQlFMX4IWjU9ajHJ2AYkHLag Eg1GKoHfA659cqZeE+n8OohJXrp0duRyQVEadtA6l5Ni7MVb19E+Thz0L/kbMHayBH2s j3Yw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1685591158; x=1688183158; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=NKvniQonIT3VNBkmrlmZt4flqwRIS0vJv5TVC/mGmno=; b=WcEtFgtcEDkvZvaYwqz4piRcmsE4er1SslQkoXJT2gyL8/a/WOrSIIlxKTMlwcD83j x4VW4XY77Edo0JooYs7/IyQlr5h87vJjnzFqShwN2en0HqZOtJkOpTOUp120tHIKfkAl BcQIRHwUCfMvoCpJShOZTxDflKIlKKbtALMQEtpkSs2XpIndwpFh6elch4g/1DvN98NQ rKCSnHXlcNnvHRTY1zo3aEk1Q6dMTeYrYmBH+ONHybj3jh/h+qGuMpAigLPSXv6pea1/ d9TjJFuOZOzn+y1f1DDMmU3lR8Ps1plKFrFLz/VeBc+sIdCb6orUITqwDpdPId/0JWuQ gHDw== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDxesZ6gb4VSyBrHGl+kQjp1SPROfgFovFc2uMt7po0l7+F+QKmo 9Pum5QW5zWjUqujR1hXgnHtQ6wHgX3KFHI/gsJMBJheK X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ6938UwR6PEEkUfQcS11+hWKM/r5MoLT73bYHttXh/5uk7MutGdhKxMtfq6y/pgJw6mxlUumAYX7PXMKxs+DfU= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:21d7:b0:3f4:9bee:b9c with SMTP id x23-20020a05600c21d700b003f49bee0b9cmr1211308wmj.18.1685591157219; Wed, 31 May 2023 20:45:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1685538041767.34e911eb-3b5c-4a42-b5b0-89ccfd0f8008@bf01.hubspotstarter.net> <9e47f8f2-e7fc-a197-020d-04bd00ff9223@indexexchange.com> In-Reply-To: <9e47f8f2-e7fc-a197-020d-04bd00ff9223@indexexchange.com> From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 19:59:47 -0600 Message-ID: To: Dave Collier-Brown Cc: bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000029a49c05fd09460b" Subject: Re: [Bloat] Fwd: Open Source Needs You to Act - Help Fight Proposed Patent Rules X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 03:45:59 -0000 --00000000000029a49c05fd09460b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If it were not for OIN fq codel or cake could have been sued out of existence. And so much more in Linux. I slept a lot better knowing that they were at the communities' backs. I am in general into co signing a document if one exists, and not into originating one. On Wed, May 31, 2023, 7:14 AM Dave Collier-Brown via Bloat < bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > Does the community wish to make a submission to the commission, and if so= , > to which aspects of the issue? > > --dave > On 5/31/23 09:07, Dave Taht via Bloat wrote: > > just when I thought it was safe to stop worrying about patents > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Open Invention Network > Date: Wed, May 31, 2023 at 7:03=E2=80=AFAM > Subject: Open Source Needs You to Act - Help Fight Proposed Patent Rules > To: > > > Proposed USPTO proposed rules will make it harder to defend OSS against > bad patents in the hands of PAEs. Fight back by June 20th. > [image: OIN-NoBkgrd-1] > [image: together-difference-2] > > > Hi Dave! > > > > * Open Source Needs You to Act - * > > Help Fight Proposed Patent Rules > > > > *ISSUE* > > The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) has issued a set of proposed > rules > , > nearly all of which will make it harder to challenge poor-quality patents= . > If implemented, these rules will make it harder to defend open source > software (OSS) against bad patents in the hands of patent trolls. > > > > *BACKGROUND & IMPACT* > > OIN & other open source supporters =E2=80=94 IBM, Microsoft & The Linux F= oundation > =E2=80=94 funded Unified Patents=E2=80=99 Open Source Zone in 2019. Since= then, this > program has challenged dozens of poor-quality, open-source related patent= s > with excellent success. The newly-proposed USPTO rules will negatively > affect the Open Source Zone=E2=80=99s ability to challenge patents, even = though > many of the rules are apparently outside of the USPTO's authority > > and plainly inconsistent with the intentions of the legislators that pass= ed > the America Invents Act. They may also prevent organizations like OIN and > others from seeking patent reviews. > > > > If these rules are enacted, patents that slipped through the system and > should have never been issued in the first place will: > > - Be increasingly litigated against developers and users of OSS, > including businesses that rely on open source > > - Raise the already high cost of patent litigation and cost > hundreds-of-millions of dollars, according to an economic impact study > > > - Impact all open source organizations worldwide that have a > developer, supplier or customer in the United States > > - Make business more difficult in the United States, and slow > innovation globally > > As it is critical to OSS that we help stop this proposal, The Linux > Foundation is hosting a free webinar entitled "Stopping Patent Trolls: Wh= y > Open Source Urgently Needs Your Help, Now!", on June 7, 2023 10:30 AM PDT > (GMT - 7). To join the webinar and learn more, please register here > > . > > > > *ACTION* > > Please take a few minutes to share your thoughts, however brief, by selec= ting > the green box > > titled =E2=80=9CSubmit a formal comment.=E2=80=9D If you want to submit m= ore detailed > comments, or have any questions or concerns about what is at stake, pleas= e contact > Jonathan Stroud at Unified Patents. > > > > *DEADLINE* > > *Your comments must be received by June 20, 2023* *11:59 PM EDT (GMT - > 4).* > Sincerely, > [image: Keith-Signature] > Keith Bergelt *Chief Executive Officer* > [image: OIN_logo_300dpi] > > > > > > Open Invention Network, 4819 Emperor Blvd., Suite 400, Durham, NC 27703, > USA, +1 (919) 313-4902 > > Unsubscribe > Manage > preferences > > > > -- > Podcast: > https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227111937/ > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing listBloat@lists.bufferbloat.nethttps://lists.bufferbloat.ne= t/listinfo/bloat > > -- > David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. 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If it were not for OIN fq codel or cake could have been s= ued out of existence. And so much more in Linux. I slept a lot better knowi= ng that they were at the communities' backs.=C2=A0
I am in general into co signing a document if one = exists, and not into originating one.





On Wed, May 31, 2023, 7:14 AM Dave Collier-Br= own via Bloat <bloat@list= s.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

Does the community wish to make a submission to the commission, and if s= o, to which aspects of the issue?

--dave

On 5/31/23 09:07, Dave Taht via Bloat wrote:
just when=C2=A0I thought it was safe to stop worrying abou= t patents

---------- Forwarded message --------= -
From: Open Invention Networ= k <emeintzer@openinventionnetwork.com>
Date: Wed, May 31, 2023 at 7:03=E2=80=AFAM
Subject: Open Source Needs You to Act - Help Fight Proposed Patent Rules To: <dave.taht@gmail.com>


Proposed USPTO proposed rules will make it harder to defend OSS against bad= patents in the hands of PAEs. Fight back by June 20th.
3D"OIN-NoBkgrd-1"
3D"together-difference-2"

Hi Dave!<= /p>

=C2=A0

=C2=A0Open Source Needs You to A= ct -

Help Fight Proposed Patent Rules

=C2=A0

ISSUE

The U.S. Patent= and Trademark Office (USPTO) has issued a set of proposed rules, nearly all of whic= h will make it harder to challenge poor-quality patents. If implemented, th= ese rules will make it harder to defend open source software (OSS) against bad patents in the hands of patent trol= ls.

=C2=A0

BACKGROUND & IMPACT<= /span>

OIN & other= open source supporters =E2=80=94 IBM, Microsoft & The Linux Foundation= =E2=80=94 funded Unified Patents=E2=80=99 Open Source Zone in 2019. Since = then, this program has challenged dozens of poor-quality, open-source related patents with excellent success. The newly-proposed USPTO rules wil= l negatively affect the Open Source Zone=E2=80=99s ability to challenge pat= ents, even though many of the rules are apparently outside of the USPTO's authority and plainly inconsistent with the intentions of the legislators that pas= sed the America Invents Act. They may also prevent organizations like OIN and others from seeking patent reviews.

=C2=A0

If these rules = are enacted, patents that slipped through the system and should have never = been issued in the first place will:

As it is critic= al to OSS that we help stop this proposal, The Linux Foundation is hosting = a free webinar entitled "Stopping Patent Trolls: Why Open Source Urgen= tly Needs Your Help, Now!", on June 7, 2023 10:30 AM PDT (GMT - 7).=C2=A0 To join the webinar and learn more, please r= egister he= re.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

ACTION

Please take a f= ew minutes to share your thoughts, however brief, by selecting the green box titled =E2= =80=9CSubmit a formal comment.=E2= =80=9D If you want to submit more detailed comments, or have any questions or concerns about what is at stake, please contact Jonathan Stroud at Unified Patents.

=C2=A0

DEADLINE

Your co= mments must be received by June 20, 2023 11:59 PM EDT (GMT - 4).

<= span style=3D"color:#444444">Sincerely,
3D"Keith-Signature"

<= span style=3D"color:#444444">Keith Bergelt

<= em>Chief Executive Officer
3D"OIN_logo_300dpi"




Open Invention Network, 4819 Emperor Blvd., Suite 400, Durham, NC 27703, US= A, +1 (919) 313-4902

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