From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x12e.google.com (mail-il1-x12e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D1373B29D for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 13:48:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-il1-x12e.google.com with SMTP id h10so8747830ilq.3 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 10:48:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zJqMVuU8hV+iJJOrow4ZwQBV9DUuBYwlZKEmBiC5ras=; b=pXl4M4/MShEZnzG1WIj+iSiMsE74QEjgcTKfOuylYSbh2RsELCNMNzRtuxgzr1oZz/ /4zfaE0mkrE6838soTgIrJsglzEL2TRayn6v3EVYtHtumPpcDta1BM7cWoqLK6PXz7AB vFXsVP5Kssrm4uhFYwAIquikI7o7Ksl2B147umKP/jGpQDsKtVS6ndTQvAYS2yS/AwZ2 Ktn3hUl8uDnw+ZU7lx5sQYFv0TNzgn6Pt+Z+sGtZaTI69hmbsqPNBcCi+EyaLF9sG915 XOBPWhR/h666wZ6dMsoYTXrDUSP0GVkOJDR1bZyZukQQy+BsBbjFREL1qHVJmdPqM2Uh OqCg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zJqMVuU8hV+iJJOrow4ZwQBV9DUuBYwlZKEmBiC5ras=; b=qkNXmQ60yO7MmZWA6JAKcxKvXtPOdY3pccP7O6pZJIVPQz/fXMClRy2A6XvBrNZzw0 gq3FCm063GxjEm+GxtYLuacxFfJ3Vq4xqz/aardOxtWFQpHB2OEUDqyw88UPlk9qIIU/ Tqh+URWh97mNjUic/gQoMjBEFcsbNBVmEnzHDUXXtysxFxUrDnVQ6ITnvT+n2/ZViBGe 0AEfc23IVkljTPQ1q3ygFNLzUzLUnZFplgtkHvjmkog3M8L3DGtWFId2uGF+s/3mKd00 GK5L3Sn6b1dHE7NsI+MoK8oBd3V9vlabAd2MvJnbsaw9KPQwOXU3UR4A9lE3JVcnAYcn 8ypA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5308vlp9ZA7sjZb5iOHr9KLiKwV4lu4Ej7vJgUcwhFm54iScq18C IUsOLvwKuy/joChGiG3p37mr+bmjxZ/hRX8WU1ssCNT2t+8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzG3ftk62R3h5TLmC8Czu0bbP300VuGazYkwtrcD7+RPQmyCW8//a3B228lv9aMKZ9wJGbxO0R30+riZxLfR8c= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:8a3:: with SMTP id a3mr15405323ilt.88.1633888105637; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 10:48:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 10:48:13 -0700 Message-ID: To: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] updating the theory of buffer sizing X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 17:48:26 -0000 This latest from Nick & co, was quite good: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2109.11693.pdf --=20 Fixing Starlink's Latencies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dc9gLo6Xrwgw Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC