Actually I feel that at speeds greater than *50*Mbits, most of the bloat
moves to the wifi, but perhaps I should qualify it more, Modern wifi can do
almost 2gbits a few feet from the AP, but still has a dynamic range of
5Mbit to 2gbit. Interference, contention, range, all factor into when you
hit a FIFO "cliff", and stay there.

I wish I knew how many commercial APs outside of eero, cisco meraki,
gfiber, and starlink have adopted fq_codel. Certainly I am pleased as punch
at openwrt's adoption. And seeing at least a few fiber folk shipping better
wifi.

Moreso, if only more vendors did a RvRvlatency test like:
http://flent-newark.bufferbloat.net/~d/Airtime%20based%20queue%20limit%20for%20FQ_CoDel%20in%20wireless%20interface.pdf

A hugely mitigating factor is people self adapting to move closer to the AP
(or mesh), another is most traffic never cracks 20 mbit for very long.

I am sad that every coffee shop I frequent save one, has horrible
bufferbloat, but it  usually only shows up when you try to do s
videoconference.



On Sun, Aug 18, 2024 at 8:32 AM Jan Ceuleers via Bloat <
bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> On 18/08/2024 11:08, Rich Brown via Bloat wrote:
> > In various posts, I have baldly asserted that "above 300-500mbps ISP
> links, all the bufferbloat moves into the Wi-Fi."
> >
> > I am pretty sure that I someone on these lists stated that as fact.
> >
> > Could I get a link to a discussion that is definitive? Or a statement
> that is actually true that I can incorporate into my future posts? Many
> thanks.
>
> Quite evidently there are WiFi access points and clients available whose
> speeds exceed 500 Mbit/s, so in order to be able to make such a claim
> one would need to know the extent to which those newer WiFi technologies
> are not yet deployed.
>
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