From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x22c.google.com (mail-ob0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6419D21F5F1 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obcej4 with SMTP id ej4so6741500obc.0 for ; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 09:19:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jOeLQRkZ4F4Vq7QTHGsYitf4g4Xefyc0I70t365zo4Y=; b=Z3PimC6KMsD268ZAEx2Mdp3xdUrzsi/PkYg7aNU7dyTtypoIwTskDinVAW5TfPkZLg 6qxDJHr+gCoJr01u5YpkUzd+KpkhIelL46Na4sVMPAc4/rfjnPa8w/pQagjk2TVkumql zqvc2PYy+0tMGNK0bwAz5+xsrF8GT+ngKEOHqe3P4FeH66D+aighURew5LlNUgu0hpmz SG7miQ8miu2u7Dmmmk6soda77iBHKDkmuBN/sSN0c9SviOJTf+qAB0wKRQAW0B8Wxm3P /ueB7xQP04FDEblr2E6VfKyOobNXeuI8AThcxJ/GxzTYIK4/pokryiyJ8U2IGq4h/Pgw LCzA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.216.138 with SMTP id p132mr3414416oig.133.1433521192290; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 09:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.105.129 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:19:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5571B334.7050607@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> References: <7D4DDC3F-9233-4E07-B59B-AA1368CA9D4E@gmail.com> <5571B334.7050607@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:19:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] Bloat goes away, but with ~25% speed loss? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:20:21 -0000 On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant wrote: > > > On 04/06/15 21:01, Jonathan Morton wrote: > > A useful exercise might be to log the idle latency over a long period of > time, and correlate it to peak load periods, as A&A do. > http://aa.net.uk/kb-broadband-cqm.html . > > Minor claim to 'infamy'. The line graph shown on that page is my ADSL li= ne > from 4ish years ago :-) I was having a hell of a time trying to convince= BT > to solve the packet loss issue caused by a faulty PSU in a satellite > receiver (one whole street away and affecting a LOT of people) Andrews & > Arnold (ISP) were the only people capable of hitting BT with a sufficient= ly > large cluebat. A&A struck me as an extremely clueful ISP (I think they have had ipv6 /48s for forever?) and it has been my impression that folk like that were using things like HFSC + SFQ already in their "rate limiters", and had experimented also with fq_codel by now. > - Jonathan Morton > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone? https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast