From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x22f.google.com (mail-ob0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1680021F2B2 for ; Mon, 11 May 2015 10:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbkp3 with SMTP id kp3so105322455obb.3 for ; Mon, 11 May 2015 10:38:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rFr/a66HtIscB+AfdxpEWvCKoPRRLXxyyWVagAEnHoU=; b=DMuQvPGKrUYBYx6xgh0sz9ABEucb8G/d+u2gjmJkiluG3c8o7N1dHGb10+b86GjmPC tAu4u2gHgy9IFGIhCB0YdZRbmTWr9TgsdBTvIoo5MxZUGsSJyb79wrHFaq8V8C43QVH5 ghVlq2cD/3kR2Kqn6si96TKbRF/Ibs5Z4vTGKcf66+gNVtMmTf/Gw+9/6Ekn3Dcw2O0r i/Z1uILcCq6ie2nTysr+fnm+qWBvsnnRShsnzRukseYYoFuZmD0UgWZlpXJQCAbUZG22 ieoDcg76rKvBzLYtGBPlkJzDlXoU7XkkcGyIWi0tJOz+fi0XtgJQwjpmHctVnNt2AApU y8Ug== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.227.130 with SMTP id a124mr8472509oih.59.1431365888426; Mon, 11 May 2015 10:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.71.139 with HTTP; Mon, 11 May 2015 10:38:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 10:38:08 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: =?UTF-8?Q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "aqm@ietf.org" , bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] [aqm] splat start? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 17:38:43 -0000 On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 5:26 AM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Michael Scharf performed his PhD thesis on start up mechanisms. Here is o= ne of his papers (from 2009): Am I the only person that works in spreadsheets to model stuff? :( > Scharf, M.: Work in Progress: Performance Evaluation of Fast Startup Cong= estion Control Schemes > Proceedings of the 8th IFIP-TC6 Networking Conference (Networking 2009), = Lecture Notes in Computer Science (LNCS) 5550, Aachen, May 2009 Thank you. I did not know that work had also fed back into RFC6928. https://www.bell-labs.com/researchers/537/ thesis here. But I will need a spare weekend to read it. http://www.ikr.uni-stuttgart.de/Content/Publications/Archive/Sf_Diss_40112.= pdf > I guess he can further comment on this own (cc=E2=80=99ed). > > Mirja > > > >> Am 10.05.2015 um 04:18 schrieb Dave Taht : >> >> One of the things bugging me lately is that we actually have a lot of >> forms of "slow start" >> on the table - HyStart, Initial Spreading, reno vs cubic, dctcp, IW2, >> IW4, IW10, TSO offloads, the effect of GRO on it, etc. I dont know >> what is in QUIC, either. >> >> I would love a comprehensive guide to exactly the behaviors of "slow >> start" in every tcp known to man and some sane way to refer to them >> all in a cross reference and a spreadsheet. >> >> Does something like that exist? Just the "* start" behavior. >> >> The world has spent way too much time analyzing congestion avoidance mod= e. >> >> -- >> Dave T=C3=A4ht >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aqm mailing list >> aqm@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/aqm > --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware** https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67