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* [Bloat] Fwd: Open Source Needs You to Act - Help Fight Proposed Patent Rules
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@ 2023-05-31 13:07 ` Dave Taht
  2023-05-31 13:14   ` Dave Collier-Brown
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2023-05-31 13:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bloat, libreqos

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just when I thought it was safe to stop worrying about patents

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Open Invention Network <emeintzer@openinventionnetwork.com>
Date: Wed, May 31, 2023 at 7:03 AM
Subject: Open Source Needs You to Act - Help Fight Proposed Patent Rules
To: <dave.taht@gmail.com>


Proposed USPTO proposed rules will make it harder to defend OSS against bad
patents in the hands of PAEs. Fight back by June 20th.
[image: OIN-NoBkgrd-1]
[image: together-difference-2]
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Hi Dave!



* Open Source Needs You to Act - *

Help Fight Proposed Patent Rules



*ISSUE*

The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) has issued a set of proposed
rules
<https://cfT5B04.na1.hubspotlinksstarter.com/Ctc/I2+113/cfT5B04/VVN7d58C75qbW2rDHF57vsP7zVhPn1w4_cKf1N65wGVh5knJZV3Zsc37CgPXMW62WJCb6ydvJtW3jylL55llyjhVY3PjB21W9RZW4TkVpR7cz_z2W6Cnnfs7L7gHCW8_wFkP6Jn49kW4D5fNX1GqM15W61CS3C4XsBs6W38tJ7y6k40_-W3Sm14N5fPkJ5W8bxpSK4MlZFGW6rHq8-205vQQW65D3482jyDzMW6cMzp54x-CBVW1qWdTn2PXjvNW5sw4gp5pZnccW5KmNs02C2lH7W3S-WSq7L8C07W8d4xPD2jGQb4W46dlDj79VD-hW4Q-z6J3FtykWW6YV2Mb3xCcpnW5DzW6W7JCXmsW4GSFl64nnHgnW50jd942hSWs8N9dDsvbHP8Q8W8tk8TX2ny-t_W2pcZy12DJTrVW1yt3-H1LkrdCW88P9zg3VCS7dW5JCNpz3kPWZDW47KwLd8LRdt1W13zK_x67VvP4W3MQGrC8F_Y_bN4rBYLJ27rHlW3mzxST2-8rR8W84S6Tv9cCmqyW6QDLqD9dPTps36yJ1>,
nearly all of which will make it harder to challenge poor-quality patents.
If implemented, these rules will make it harder to defend open source
software (OSS) against bad patents in the hands of patent trolls.



*BACKGROUND & IMPACT*

OIN & other open source supporters — IBM, Microsoft & The Linux Foundation
— funded Unified Patents’ Open Source Zone in 2019. Since then, this
program has challenged dozens of poor-quality, open-source related patents
with excellent success. The newly-proposed USPTO rules will negatively
affect the Open Source Zone’s ability to challenge patents, even though
many of the rules are apparently outside of the USPTO's authority
<https://cfT5B04.na1.hubspotlinksstarter.com/Ctc/I2+113/cfT5B04/VVN7d58C75qbW2rDHF57vsP7zVhPn1w4_cKf1N65wGTp5knJ3V3Zsc37CgTbLW4rwkT95P5114W7Fk50R6sXBj0W43dQ8V6fR3X6W9cwNjD1Wmp6mW1LnVhP2X7JXNN8p1y4N6w2CwN6sknN32WBRLW88fzK96xpBVKW1tZZ5f8Tkt2LW5jJKdj1VR3D9W353xnN95LnvvW6lzGc-1ybtrYW5MkNsT14svwJW7H5xmK5hLZ9FW8NHK4_7DW5_GW6mXX9964pCX8W7_BSkB6fyqGpW4jHLnB8rWT27VRp2wM27WmlxW2NwQ6Q99-D5vW2qBpg43YS3wLW2g-rZv39gCKfN889GZB_1s89W8bN0nN7Hp9d7Vh3S_18DGslLW8qwXhX6fXRhlW2QBJxq8zYFF7W80tQgH4B3PPcN3hJFWyFkTMtW1053Lp6dpfWFW6F_bHd15cs9CW1P-J256s9m433p1T1>
and plainly inconsistent with the intentions of the legislators that passed
the America Invents Act. They may also prevent organizations like OIN and
others from seeking patent reviews.



If these rules are enacted, patents that slipped through the system and
should have never been issued in the first place will:

   - Be increasingly litigated against developers and users of OSS,
   including businesses that rely on open source

   - Raise the already high cost of patent litigation and cost
   hundreds-of-millions of dollars, according to an economic impact study
   <https://cfT5B04.na1.hubspotlinksstarter.com/Ctc/I2+113/cfT5B04/VVN7d58C75qbW2rDHF57vsP7zVhPn1w4_cKf1N65wGVB3lSc3V1-WJV7CgJ6kVDLjdm15bnPcVYMFWX7qNKF6W6g4SFk59pdMNW70Zb1c6bxxh8W7BcZrr2KtBLTW8BNQQ51XcXVCW91ycZr7S5wTlW3_xGQp9hM1TWW6D0ym31z8Yd0N54Smc1p-NgZW3_08zt7n1CRpW6KFD_T24CHQHW5cMx6j75td3GW47z6t527tkV3VXMltY5697NCN1F2tSgJggr2W6yxyrR3tNtYbW9fwjh61KjNK3W5RwxNk3jm_FzW6CpSYD8wvl8xN6yPLZY4xqjYW7YcZSN3z62S2W5R1GQM5Y4_lkW8JSnlP8XzXq837d31>

   - Impact all open source organizations worldwide that have a developer,
   supplier or customer in the United States

   - Make business more difficult in the United States, and slow innovation
   globally

As it is critical to OSS that we help stop this proposal, The Linux
Foundation is hosting a free webinar entitled "Stopping Patent Trolls: Why
Open Source Urgently Needs Your Help, Now!", on June 7, 2023 10:30 AM PDT
(GMT - 7).  To join the webinar and learn more, please register here
<https://cfT5B04.na1.hubspotlinksstarter.com/Ctc/I2+113/cfT5B04/VVN7d58C75qbW2rDHF57vsP7zVhPn1w4_cKf1N65wGWt3lScZV1-WJV7CgXZzVxj2JC2q8JbDW3cCdYs7mYrzhW2Djs5k387GVXVTnr__5P9xGgW5Rlt2Z7x7GmqW9csYrP2VGPhCW1TtDfY1LqWM6W1W3_Pf8XbDlHW2Tz7FR7TFpPFW58f67_2pkl7nW3D6s0M8cwVh6W5rcNrl4fwkvJW5qFY401jZJyrV7s-WC8MvwsxW2BTjwX1ldTNTW2pgkRq9hQZ7lW5CtlLG2HBx7KVGxZj72fSp-2W6BsPlG77G_f3W7-qV271mzb4kW2XGKwh7jPt05W44xHmp5R83BZW5dr0pB7X1xynW6yWX_l7lyQj0W5p8XRV4h-Tl-W13-R0P1qyWK-W8-C-JK3xXDsbW3mcwQQ6yh2xYW4-Wcyp6cJ9K2W4tpysY7wm7qk3jP-1>
.



*ACTION*

Please take a few minutes to share your thoughts, however brief, by selecting
the green box
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titled “Submit a formal comment.” If you want to submit more detailed
comments, or have any questions or concerns about what is at stake,
please contact
Jonathan Stroud <jonathan@unifiedpatents.com> at Unified Patents.



*DEADLINE*

*Your comments must be received by June 20, 2023* *11:59 PM EDT (GMT - 4).*
Sincerely,
[image: Keith-Signature]
Keith Bergelt *Chief Executive Officer*
[image: OIN_logo_300dpi]
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Open Invention Network, 4819 Emperor Blvd., Suite 400, Durham, NC 27703,
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* Re: [Bloat] Fwd: Open Source Needs You to Act - Help Fight Proposed Patent Rules
  2023-05-31 13:07 ` [Bloat] Fwd: Open Source Needs You to Act - Help Fight Proposed Patent Rules Dave Taht
@ 2023-05-31 13:14   ` Dave Collier-Brown
  2023-06-01  1:59     ` Dave Taht
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Dave Collier-Brown @ 2023-05-31 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bloat

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Does the community wish to make a submission to the commission, and if so, to which aspects of the issue?

--dave

On 5/31/23 09:07, Dave Taht via Bloat wrote:
just when I thought it was safe to stop worrying about patents

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Open Invention Network <emeintzer@openinventionnetwork.com<mailto:emeintzer@openinventionnetwork.com>>
Date: Wed, May 31, 2023 at 7:03 AM
Subject: Open Source Needs You to Act - Help Fight Proposed Patent Rules
To: <dave.taht@gmail.com<mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com>>


Proposed USPTO proposed rules will make it harder to defend OSS against bad patents in the hands of PAEs. Fight back by June 20th.
[OIN-NoBkgrd-1]
[together-difference-2] <https://cfT5B04.na1.hubspotlinksstarter.com/Ctc/I2+113/cfT5B04/VVN7d58C75qbW2rDHF57vsP7zVhPn1w4_cKf1N65wGVh3lSbNV1-WJV7CgPpZW8_WQmN2dk-3JW86QrVj5FcwgjVm4MSZ2LD5QlN616MK51BSg5W58KQkv3FFX59W6H8PwP73X90MW60PR_N1r9mjgW84GMXw8bXK6HW6vx-Hc3gjL9tW3nSvPG5Hn1hRW5BLSzn583kWtW737M2W5L3GFzW94HJXp6fkZFsW3CzgPT1N94n9W4S0gK781F-R2W8qQVJD6WZ46lW5fmx258zF-NbW2jVmV331_nQ7W3G_8r21Gt7DLVjWY3c4kk2mTW19vcHw2d34LPN8NVYLSF8RQ03ckF1>

Hi Dave!



 Open Source Needs You to Act -

Help Fight Proposed Patent Rules



ISSUE

The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) has issued a set of proposed rules<https://cfT5B04.na1.hubspotlinksstarter.com/Ctc/I2+113/cfT5B04/VVN7d58C75qbW2rDHF57vsP7zVhPn1w4_cKf1N65wGVh5knJZV3Zsc37CgPXMW62WJCb6ydvJtW3jylL55llyjhVY3PjB21W9RZW4TkVpR7cz_z2W6Cnnfs7L7gHCW8_wFkP6Jn49kW4D5fNX1GqM15W61CS3C4XsBs6W38tJ7y6k40_-W3Sm14N5fPkJ5W8bxpSK4MlZFGW6rHq8-205vQQW65D3482jyDzMW6cMzp54x-CBVW1qWdTn2PXjvNW5sw4gp5pZnccW5KmNs02C2lH7W3S-WSq7L8C07W8d4xPD2jGQb4W46dlDj79VD-hW4Q-z6J3FtykWW6YV2Mb3xCcpnW5DzW6W7JCXmsW4GSFl64nnHgnW50jd942hSWs8N9dDsvbHP8Q8W8tk8TX2ny-t_W2pcZy12DJTrVW1yt3-H1LkrdCW88P9zg3VCS7dW5JCNpz3kPWZDW47KwLd8LRdt1W13zK_x67VvP4W3MQGrC8F_Y_bN4rBYLJ27rHlW3mzxST2-8rR8W84S6Tv9cCmqyW6QDLqD9dPTps36yJ1>, nearly all of which will make it harder to challenge poor-quality patents. If implemented, these rules will make it harder to defend open source software (OSS) against bad patents in the hands of patent trolls.



BACKGROUND & IMPACT

OIN & other open source supporters — IBM, Microsoft & The Linux Foundation — funded Unified Patents’ Open Source Zone in 2019. Since then, this program has challenged dozens of poor-quality, open-source related patents with excellent success. The newly-proposed USPTO rules will negatively affect the Open Source Zone’s ability to challenge patents, even though many of the rules are apparently outside of the USPTO's authority<https://cfT5B04.na1.hubspotlinksstarter.com/Ctc/I2+113/cfT5B04/VVN7d58C75qbW2rDHF57vsP7zVhPn1w4_cKf1N65wGTp5knJ3V3Zsc37CgTbLW4rwkT95P5114W7Fk50R6sXBj0W43dQ8V6fR3X6W9cwNjD1Wmp6mW1LnVhP2X7JXNN8p1y4N6w2CwN6sknN32WBRLW88fzK96xpBVKW1tZZ5f8Tkt2LW5jJKdj1VR3D9W353xnN95LnvvW6lzGc-1ybtrYW5MkNsT14svwJW7H5xmK5hLZ9FW8NHK4_7DW5_GW6mXX9964pCX8W7_BSkB6fyqGpW4jHLnB8rWT27VRp2wM27WmlxW2NwQ6Q99-D5vW2qBpg43YS3wLW2g-rZv39gCKfN889GZB_1s89W8bN0nN7Hp9d7Vh3S_18DGslLW8qwXhX6fXRhlW2QBJxq8zYFF7W80tQgH4B3PPcN3hJFWyFkTMtW1053Lp6dpfWFW6F_bHd15cs9CW1P-J256s9m433p1T1> and plainly inconsistent with the intentions of the legislators that passed the America Invents Act. They may also prevent organizations like OIN and others from seeking patent reviews.



If these rules are enacted, patents that slipped through the system and should have never been issued in the first place will:

  *   Be increasingly litigated against developers and users of OSS, including businesses that rely on open source

  *   Raise the already high cost of patent litigation and cost hundreds-of-millions of dollars, according to an economic impact study<https://cfT5B04.na1.hubspotlinksstarter.com/Ctc/I2+113/cfT5B04/VVN7d58C75qbW2rDHF57vsP7zVhPn1w4_cKf1N65wGVB3lSc3V1-WJV7CgJ6kVDLjdm15bnPcVYMFWX7qNKF6W6g4SFk59pdMNW70Zb1c6bxxh8W7BcZrr2KtBLTW8BNQQ51XcXVCW91ycZr7S5wTlW3_xGQp9hM1TWW6D0ym31z8Yd0N54Smc1p-NgZW3_08zt7n1CRpW6KFD_T24CHQHW5cMx6j75td3GW47z6t527tkV3VXMltY5697NCN1F2tSgJggr2W6yxyrR3tNtYbW9fwjh61KjNK3W5RwxNk3jm_FzW6CpSYD8wvl8xN6yPLZY4xqjYW7YcZSN3z62S2W5R1GQM5Y4_lkW8JSnlP8XzXq837d31>

  *   Impact all open source organizations worldwide that have a developer, supplier or customer in the United States

  *   Make business more difficult in the United States, and slow innovation globally

As it is critical to OSS that we help stop this proposal, The Linux Foundation is hosting a free webinar entitled "Stopping Patent Trolls: Why Open Source Urgently Needs Your Help, Now!", on June 7, 2023 10:30 AM PDT (GMT - 7).  To join the webinar and learn more, please register here<https://cfT5B04.na1.hubspotlinksstarter.com/Ctc/I2+113/cfT5B04/VVN7d58C75qbW2rDHF57vsP7zVhPn1w4_cKf1N65wGWt3lScZV1-WJV7CgXZzVxj2JC2q8JbDW3cCdYs7mYrzhW2Djs5k387GVXVTnr__5P9xGgW5Rlt2Z7x7GmqW9csYrP2VGPhCW1TtDfY1LqWM6W1W3_Pf8XbDlHW2Tz7FR7TFpPFW58f67_2pkl7nW3D6s0M8cwVh6W5rcNrl4fwkvJW5qFY401jZJyrV7s-WC8MvwsxW2BTjwX1ldTNTW2pgkRq9hQZ7lW5CtlLG2HBx7KVGxZj72fSp-2W6BsPlG77G_f3W7-qV271mzb4kW2XGKwh7jPt05W44xHmp5R83BZW5dr0pB7X1xynW6yWX_l7lyQj0W5p8XRV4h-Tl-W13-R0P1qyWK-W8-C-JK3xXDsbW3mcwQQ6yh2xYW4-Wcyp6cJ9K2W4tpysY7wm7qk3jP-1>.



ACTION

Please take a few minutes to share your thoughts, however brief, by selecting the green box<https://cfT5B04.na1.hubspotlinksstarter.com/Ctc/I2+113/cfT5B04/VVN7d58C75qbW2rDHF57vsP7zVhPn1w4_cKf1N65wGVh5knJZV3Zsc37CgG9vW5-JJs04KKwfNW6yszb21GG8SzW1shmvT3T3RnYW6TFhZ77cLqJLW3k4bJs8sJpFtW3nCQjm3xfS9-W8KKcG08xXlHvW2sNgsf3-zkPCW77GGLp6Sq1zbW3W9h_X1TYKVFW6SlWgl5Qt4nRW50xq111zkDpPW87bqMK263J1PW7hQf4j19XSMBV6tTWP1LnbrDW3rZt3x6Pcq_HW2DvWhH4Q6-42W6THFM52LbWhNN8vXc8XYBfH2W300jMZ7Lyh7-W3CNw2Q177NNDW80dh_T3Zwq6dW3zmsgN1TtSf1N6vZq82hZ0lfW4WWf0B20gfffW3lGgTz7QKqR4W3K5gxY7LSd0GW64T9T22TL7P3VKrb0628yz_rW12C8cG3G-Y2rVqbmkT63BwGYW1tNvVP492yJqW8dDZ6K5__dg9W27Lhzv5VK2Y5W1QM76h8WrJxkN5jdzKNbXVR0MHjL8Bn1Dh1W8XzfZY3kyh1m3h151> titled “Submit a formal comment.” If you want to submit more detailed comments, or have any questions or concerns about what is at stake, please contact Jonathan Stroud<mailto:jonathan@unifiedpatents.com> at Unified Patents.



DEADLINE

Your comments must be received by June 20, 2023 11:59 PM EDT (GMT - 4).

Sincerely,
[Keith-Signature]
Keith Bergelt
Chief Executive Officer
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* Re: [Bloat] Fwd: Open Source Needs You to Act - Help Fight Proposed Patent Rules
  2023-05-31 13:14   ` Dave Collier-Brown
@ 2023-06-01  1:59     ` Dave Taht
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2023-06-01  1:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Collier-Brown; +Cc: bloat

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If it were not for OIN fq codel or cake could have been sued out of
existence. And so much more in Linux. I slept a lot better knowing that
they were at the communities' backs.

I am in general into co signing a document if one exists, and not into
originating one.





On Wed, May 31, 2023, 7:14 AM Dave Collier-Brown via Bloat <
bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> Does the community wish to make a submission to the commission, and if so,
> to which aspects of the issue?
>
> --dave
> On 5/31/23 09:07, Dave Taht via Bloat wrote:
>
> just when I thought it was safe to stop worrying about patents
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Open Invention Network <emeintzer@openinventionnetwork.com>
> Date: Wed, May 31, 2023 at 7:03 AM
> Subject: Open Source Needs You to Act - Help Fight Proposed Patent Rules
> To: <dave.taht@gmail.com>
>
>
> Proposed USPTO proposed rules will make it harder to defend OSS against
> bad patents in the hands of PAEs. Fight back by June 20th.
> [image: OIN-NoBkgrd-1]
> [image: together-difference-2]
> <https://cfT5B04.na1.hubspotlinksstarter.com/Ctc/I2+113/cfT5B04/VVN7d58C75qbW2rDHF57vsP7zVhPn1w4_cKf1N65wGVh3lSbNV1-WJV7CgPpZW8_WQmN2dk-3JW86QrVj5FcwgjVm4MSZ2LD5QlN616MK51BSg5W58KQkv3FFX59W6H8PwP73X90MW60PR_N1r9mjgW84GMXw8bXK6HW6vx-Hc3gjL9tW3nSvPG5Hn1hRW5BLSzn583kWtW737M2W5L3GFzW94HJXp6fkZFsW3CzgPT1N94n9W4S0gK781F-R2W8qQVJD6WZ46lW5fmx258zF-NbW2jVmV331_nQ7W3G_8r21Gt7DLVjWY3c4kk2mTW19vcHw2d34LPN8NVYLSF8RQ03ckF1>
>
> Hi Dave!
>
>
>
> * Open Source Needs You to Act - *
>
> Help Fight Proposed Patent Rules
>
>
>
> *ISSUE*
>
> The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) has issued a set of proposed
> rules
> <https://cfT5B04.na1.hubspotlinksstarter.com/Ctc/I2+113/cfT5B04/VVN7d58C75qbW2rDHF57vsP7zVhPn1w4_cKf1N65wGVh5knJZV3Zsc37CgPXMW62WJCb6ydvJtW3jylL55llyjhVY3PjB21W9RZW4TkVpR7cz_z2W6Cnnfs7L7gHCW8_wFkP6Jn49kW4D5fNX1GqM15W61CS3C4XsBs6W38tJ7y6k40_-W3Sm14N5fPkJ5W8bxpSK4MlZFGW6rHq8-205vQQW65D3482jyDzMW6cMzp54x-CBVW1qWdTn2PXjvNW5sw4gp5pZnccW5KmNs02C2lH7W3S-WSq7L8C07W8d4xPD2jGQb4W46dlDj79VD-hW4Q-z6J3FtykWW6YV2Mb3xCcpnW5DzW6W7JCXmsW4GSFl64nnHgnW50jd942hSWs8N9dDsvbHP8Q8W8tk8TX2ny-t_W2pcZy12DJTrVW1yt3-H1LkrdCW88P9zg3VCS7dW5JCNpz3kPWZDW47KwLd8LRdt1W13zK_x67VvP4W3MQGrC8F_Y_bN4rBYLJ27rHlW3mzxST2-8rR8W84S6Tv9cCmqyW6QDLqD9dPTps36yJ1>,
> nearly all of which will make it harder to challenge poor-quality patents.
> If implemented, these rules will make it harder to defend open source
> software (OSS) against bad patents in the hands of patent trolls.
>
>
>
> *BACKGROUND & IMPACT*
>
> OIN & other open source supporters — IBM, Microsoft & The Linux Foundation
> — funded Unified Patents’ Open Source Zone in 2019. Since then, this
> program has challenged dozens of poor-quality, open-source related patents
> with excellent success. The newly-proposed USPTO rules will negatively
> affect the Open Source Zone’s ability to challenge patents, even though
> many of the rules are apparently outside of the USPTO's authority
> <https://cfT5B04.na1.hubspotlinksstarter.com/Ctc/I2+113/cfT5B04/VVN7d58C75qbW2rDHF57vsP7zVhPn1w4_cKf1N65wGTp5knJ3V3Zsc37CgTbLW4rwkT95P5114W7Fk50R6sXBj0W43dQ8V6fR3X6W9cwNjD1Wmp6mW1LnVhP2X7JXNN8p1y4N6w2CwN6sknN32WBRLW88fzK96xpBVKW1tZZ5f8Tkt2LW5jJKdj1VR3D9W353xnN95LnvvW6lzGc-1ybtrYW5MkNsT14svwJW7H5xmK5hLZ9FW8NHK4_7DW5_GW6mXX9964pCX8W7_BSkB6fyqGpW4jHLnB8rWT27VRp2wM27WmlxW2NwQ6Q99-D5vW2qBpg43YS3wLW2g-rZv39gCKfN889GZB_1s89W8bN0nN7Hp9d7Vh3S_18DGslLW8qwXhX6fXRhlW2QBJxq8zYFF7W80tQgH4B3PPcN3hJFWyFkTMtW1053Lp6dpfWFW6F_bHd15cs9CW1P-J256s9m433p1T1>
> and plainly inconsistent with the intentions of the legislators that passed
> the America Invents Act. They may also prevent organizations like OIN and
> others from seeking patent reviews.
>
>
>
> If these rules are enacted, patents that slipped through the system and
> should have never been issued in the first place will:
>
>    - Be increasingly litigated against developers and users of OSS,
>    including businesses that rely on open source
>
>    - Raise the already high cost of patent litigation and cost
>    hundreds-of-millions of dollars, according to an economic impact study
>    <https://cfT5B04.na1.hubspotlinksstarter.com/Ctc/I2+113/cfT5B04/VVN7d58C75qbW2rDHF57vsP7zVhPn1w4_cKf1N65wGVB3lSc3V1-WJV7CgJ6kVDLjdm15bnPcVYMFWX7qNKF6W6g4SFk59pdMNW70Zb1c6bxxh8W7BcZrr2KtBLTW8BNQQ51XcXVCW91ycZr7S5wTlW3_xGQp9hM1TWW6D0ym31z8Yd0N54Smc1p-NgZW3_08zt7n1CRpW6KFD_T24CHQHW5cMx6j75td3GW47z6t527tkV3VXMltY5697NCN1F2tSgJggr2W6yxyrR3tNtYbW9fwjh61KjNK3W5RwxNk3jm_FzW6CpSYD8wvl8xN6yPLZY4xqjYW7YcZSN3z62S2W5R1GQM5Y4_lkW8JSnlP8XzXq837d31>
>
>    - Impact all open source organizations worldwide that have a
>    developer, supplier or customer in the United States
>
>    - Make business more difficult in the United States, and slow
>    innovation globally
>
> As it is critical to OSS that we help stop this proposal, The Linux
> Foundation is hosting a free webinar entitled "Stopping Patent Trolls: Why
> Open Source Urgently Needs Your Help, Now!", on June 7, 2023 10:30 AM PDT
> (GMT - 7).  To join the webinar and learn more, please register here
> <https://cfT5B04.na1.hubspotlinksstarter.com/Ctc/I2+113/cfT5B04/VVN7d58C75qbW2rDHF57vsP7zVhPn1w4_cKf1N65wGWt3lScZV1-WJV7CgXZzVxj2JC2q8JbDW3cCdYs7mYrzhW2Djs5k387GVXVTnr__5P9xGgW5Rlt2Z7x7GmqW9csYrP2VGPhCW1TtDfY1LqWM6W1W3_Pf8XbDlHW2Tz7FR7TFpPFW58f67_2pkl7nW3D6s0M8cwVh6W5rcNrl4fwkvJW5qFY401jZJyrV7s-WC8MvwsxW2BTjwX1ldTNTW2pgkRq9hQZ7lW5CtlLG2HBx7KVGxZj72fSp-2W6BsPlG77G_f3W7-qV271mzb4kW2XGKwh7jPt05W44xHmp5R83BZW5dr0pB7X1xynW6yWX_l7lyQj0W5p8XRV4h-Tl-W13-R0P1qyWK-W8-C-JK3xXDsbW3mcwQQ6yh2xYW4-Wcyp6cJ9K2W4tpysY7wm7qk3jP-1>
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>
>
>
> *ACTION*
>
> Please take a few minutes to share your thoughts, however brief, by selecting
> the green box
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> titled “Submit a formal comment.” If you want to submit more detailed
> comments, or have any questions or concerns about what is at stake, please contact
> Jonathan Stroud <jonathan@unifiedpatents.com> at Unified Patents.
>
>
>
> *DEADLINE*
>
> *Your comments must be received by June 20, 2023* *11:59 PM EDT (GMT -
> 4).*
> Sincerely,
> [image: Keith-Signature]
> Keith Bergelt *Chief Executive Officer*
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