From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x132.google.com (mail-il1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 607D33B29D for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 14:32:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-il1-x132.google.com with SMTP id a8so3461460ilj.10 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:32:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QOzQHPm+7c+SqcgVhS6ge6a2XO9E19u/Kq7n1oqQweA=; b=cmrNUnEUOOKOhzLY1+vJIQaWsMcYc7P+3hCUQjIYpuO9kN9D896H59vIm8cmvQjp5C xFJ10MVeODA7ZP9zTMrXDF9wcvd41oLhBD4ypV4uek27nCYLSNKO7rYn9rRM/kP+kJj+ pUL/1dSuvZmVrUTxqzGrHzJ3FlWWZ8SnppuTqV5+zC0yx2Q6M+dEVm1En6C8ZlqCfHQt YO4gXHzuWoGHdcqYxETO8j6H3cb4KKesNXN8je1TYOAkjqryOVPg+OlIo7TCsnXz8+Eg iWPueDZxPTmpTXaV92DiwqklgiJn/EXmjAWUBkQWPIX0Kap4aHBkH0kUZRqRdUZmqFG/ eErw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QOzQHPm+7c+SqcgVhS6ge6a2XO9E19u/Kq7n1oqQweA=; b=ij8Mdfc2otsRQddyKDE/6//ZijxMP2U/Bbd5Dktyk/oq1U2juVSfUtfwEeclrLCgSI Yb/YMe26KTX3gOrnANWoFmYb6YBXss7g9ihZuV+COUbzwNdFxuvM9KlZybwNp5ug6CJb UAy8WeYvRVVMOidRaSXZ49y5nXwjX+ii8fzcpunGVICYXqQiHpkSYc2mjCdFVUQCIIqX Wip348s1i2Ll16SmsgGtz0efJhGt1uHzKG6TjrBAPImYzYnZIKin8STvebJC0AqEdqHx +3H9c9hGu5QZWi7gyJZ2lVzsQsnaSrcUaXoz/CXsyIJiI0xnYXEW7Exns5l/mZumxCBE pkVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533jUWB01LI91nZJupV2BKI8rj8jZgt1UgeraYUyEhprkWmhl+yR ApwCNFS10+nEbTIS95JEzbMrVbT/8lDo0asYdJHnp7jUkAU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwQFv8bz20CLoOZ60K5TvHIjggm7DzUM56uWEZwjR4PskhyjrdlI43eJhEK5sLOvoPqAXFco3bLvUyoZmtNZUs= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:c11:: with SMTP id d17mr16486935ile.25.1633890766650; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:32:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:32:34 -0700 Message-ID: To: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] head drop vs tail drop X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 18:32:47 -0000 We've never really characterized the differences between head and tail drop. A good tidbit went by here, where in one experiment 15 v 22 drops were observed. https://journal.ub.tu-berlin.de/eceasst/article/view/1137/1092 Last paper I'm forwarding for the day! -- Fixing Starlink's Latencies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dc9gLo6Xrwgw Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC