[Bloat] head drop vs tail drop

[Bloat] head drop vs tail drop

[Dave Taht]

We've never really characterized the differences between head and tail
drop. A good tidbit went
by here, where in one experiment 15 v 22 drops were observed.

https://journal.ub.tu-berlin.de/eceasst/article/view/1137/1092

Last paper I'm forwarding for the day!


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Re: [Bloat] head drop vs tail drop

[Greg White]

Be careful with the terminology, since there are two types of head drop:

1) head drop based on sojourn time 
2) head drop based on current queue depth

That paper used type 2. 

In type 1, the drop is based on the queue that existed at the time "this" packet was enqueued (i.e. the packets that arrived *before* this packet), and thus is equivalent* to tail drop.  In type 2,  the drop is based on the queue caused by the packets that arrive *after* this packet.

* modulo the difference in predicted queue delay vs measured queue delay.

Type 2 detects and signals congestion more quickly than tail drop.   Type 1 is the same as tail drop.

-Greg


On 10/10/21, 12:32 PM, "Bloat on behalf of Dave Taht" <bloat-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net on behalf of dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

    We've never really characterized the differences between head and tail
    drop. A good tidbit went
    by here, where in one experiment 15 v 22 drops were observed.

    https://journal.ub.tu-berlin.de/eceasst/article/view/1137/1092

    Last paper I'm forwarding for the day!


    --
    Fixing Starlink's Latencies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9gLo6Xrwgw

    Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
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