From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x831.google.com (mail-qt1-x831.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::831]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 847DA3BA8E for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 18:17:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt1-x831.google.com with SMTP id p17so23837639qtl.5 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:17:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wx6S69EyXM0tWDcfxdln2t+qu8hV4MSJibz0JrBZU4c=; b=JgQ2muaxyW8K3wwT83XzFjGCtByqDhCUxbgdhMMjlEoAY5VsjxjXyqdCIXjJWqChfO WRQ2gMtn8bjzFkpRX6xr2lKICOJ7uKgUdOYZavAo1LyrSEra3oco5A7PFpzZDQp5AmzQ 8c20jfb8QjoTWn0pRtG3W7RR3aCYY2x+4Y8k4rUDw3SFmbk+9pLqOXq6eD7r67aXJL8e JpXmlfh2Ycoo67GTBcahkaS0291xP0cZWDNkVC64a9ffx59xWDwsLE8G9QKqSS675P8r VXksMpPylZ5ieJweqwGz5PW/gqfbPCi5rmFMuGLNPwt0cldfPZeUauhcKYcoRlllrO+K MIrQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wx6S69EyXM0tWDcfxdln2t+qu8hV4MSJibz0JrBZU4c=; b=WgB4is13S/Yy+ogDn2l+iEH/IBdF5NEJZSQNOQMCNmg+ULvbBu2rfhahBUTGWySm4+ RmlbAEfPuLZcN7LNpbGhjHktjJuG0YQw+z3l/RU5unz0I/33APzlh6o0DYYA5mUbSSwj /AS3xcsa9lHay0jaJpyIDeJQoNPE1cJlxcNQ3KaKXke+wEFoiacYG6ApKtMB2P3y7vn2 qwM/bS5HLk3YjPcUiTAhh0oOadKlj7wb6FNKB/p/v0G3CkLJCELUJA+WX1KU3A3pQlqU SwdzCkTacST4MgoE5UHOWkBqVkeVcUFyqrNxP+2RfpeRXgjDRAQVAZqVAOrc95OFMfyB 0q+A== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWZ87yY2yCPsWZ9zlnL2eVl1Tjet/e6uVY0zFMdFhqz5aSVOOTkR vJRqnM8sF05tbWsp7NmsFGawH23n8IDtFOOKsFc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/Wba1lBh7e8TZ7k/19t07nwRB4U6I3imKgZe6dUTsDtkdfN8Yz5FHj+FxJaoYr0BW7knTdbI3w7kA71LRdxb/Q= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:a402:: with SMTP id w2mr33617852qvw.129.1543360637061; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:17:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <65EAC6C1-4688-46B6-A575-A6C7F2C066C5@heistp.net> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:17:04 -0800 Message-ID: To: Roland Bless Cc: Luca MUSCARIELLO , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] when does the CoDel part of fq_codel help in the real world? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 23:17:17 -0000 On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 2:30 PM Roland Bless wrote: > > Hi, > > On 27.11.18 at 23:19 Luca Muscariello wrote: > > I suggest re-reading this > > > > https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3D3022184 > Probably not without this afterwards: > https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8117540 > > (especially sections II and III). And this was awesome: https://www.lk.cs.ucla.edu/data/files/Kleinrock/Internet%20congestion%20con= trol%20using%20the%20power%20metric%20LK%20Mod%20aug%202%202018.pdf and somewhere in that one are two points I'd like to make about BBR with multiple flows, reverse congestion issues, and so on... but now that we all have bedtime reading, I'm going to go back to hacking on libcuckoo. :) > Regards, > Roland > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740