From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ot1-x330.google.com (mail-ot1-x330.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::330]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5BC73CB37 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 14:42:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ot1-x330.google.com with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-6ddf26eba3cso1554679a34.0 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 11:42:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1707594151; x=1708198951; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=m5MWyjKtDGFSRdphspwc7oMKfk66snPKOorG7xSQFJE=; b=FhWUkm3ek49ClwEgh1aFooKF8BQ9ia7f8nma1mb3tKoc4toAqdYybPsEYmsjXDoWo1 mSijkjTE6DqCBjnM+N+i7/ESKIOrx37M/rH0BQ0m4EkxGcGsq0ACpnqyI4wQKBNj+KnZ LXnZe+09z1ppQN8UQ7Hs0b+x77audVr4Dug6qw2HZA+/DSe/yxqNPgDZEd7/9tV2nMvE Cg+j2BhwCkykJCxbr75M7VPkj142aFOH4grbroplicb6jNyWqwwmH6mBgZtIUlcTrRu1 iIQDjA3qU+ewmQlyeV4GsaxUcYTTEvILXCYndNe1HCtEK3EcBBp7T/QHbF2QAEYQIYnP OSqA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1707594151; x=1708198951; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=m5MWyjKtDGFSRdphspwc7oMKfk66snPKOorG7xSQFJE=; b=Fj0P6lpysEHiGGkh15brkxPpkHMxg4gcDdl55rxWzIOxoqT+ZOatJEZ6tloEI5HT5a c9zGDHXo2iHJ6Lze4D+i4auY+tTNIk0o/iHLS2KpXnXHPCgpbcUbRKdlfHBb5fe+z64i xdguQgEICjVj1fOu7/GdPNsWVPJxw8/eIGZkt6nYZHoWTVKpAbNzeWbQ3WxKjkqDV1Ex laZPJ9uvkNTj9hIVQftHGVJgkdRNj87YlhXHIZ5UD1zAvygrtgjOqoiuy97Mtb2MVEiM yG/WG3YMnU89ZOFVNOjT9xyqO+lt5X1O19IEWILjMqBxfZU0erjfEI8Zo61ms6/isDso fGrw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyqF8rYm659FQDzYjWr+a2bw3M4QZ93mOkMxlWvBCAY7HCxbtmw fX3dYKkvDLM7cMYDVhj0b00fmNQRxz3p0vKNlyA8taQTW3mecYCZjq72tEMZJ9AfWu0H6oTTba9 o9o2sPGr/by+FC+WZ2eDT2Wz2ogZSIzLY X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF8XPBDkb+DxwJGlHcprMY0FoY0IXN7wc7rMyHpCibMuyso0UceNK8geAzXWABGS6r5iaJl8kuU/tWmvzTH94M= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6358:471a:b0:178:951b:d1a6 with SMTP id j26-20020a056358471a00b00178951bd1a6mr4647934rwn.25.1707594150843; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 11:42:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87jzncs116.fsf@toke.dk> In-Reply-To: <87jzncs116.fsf@toke.dk> From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 14:42:19 -0500 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?B?VG9rZSBIw7hpbGFuZC1Kw7hyZ2Vuc2Vu?= Cc: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] The Confucius queue management scheme X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 19:42:31 -0000 nice to see someone looking at slow start finally. Hilarious that they do not call it by name. Slow start overshoot I have been now harping on for a decade... On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 12:05=E2=80=AFPM Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen v= ia Bloat wrote: > > This looks interesting: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2310.18030.pdf > > They propose a scheme to gradually let new flows achieve their fair > share of the bandwidth, to avoid the sudden drops in the available > capacity for existing flows that can happen with FQ if a lot of flows > start up at the same time. > > No code available, unfortunately, although they promise to release it > later... > > -Toke > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --=20 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9RGX6QFm5E Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos