From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd33.google.com (mail-io1-xd33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 763733B29D for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 23:26:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-io1-xd33.google.com with SMTP id x21so1461633iog.10 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 20:26:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TYvdkGYLdwFCXa+Oe3Lwx71vEg6w6Qk2IOS0A+8mbKA=; b=tF7wMuWiE0jEcpBItx8JoHewtZ9Qm4hIZZHlkS5JlHdFVVB1K7+PlzCGk3SNPPD/Ri SuxxLsZ0FXZW4zX/JPUyL1wE7SjYzmjKozqcP/gUVAxIc90HC+1Xm2rejU97LkPx644R 0nf+wRNjMuUMqYTbMB9HQb/Mb+6T6tUd/4zIFBZzEAnonjLt9j0riqZStwPns3p1bKw1 qAbrxQDX+21Ud6oQC2MOFZlkZdBT6yoLD6u1uU1van1GuhuXQ8btBH37Jr53HkKF+DOF 5E6hwRYCvYTe68Y36MpR8r8djGnBT50SMnyjryqye2haRLi+eMZrAwCozstIlgZ8aew4 Pujw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TYvdkGYLdwFCXa+Oe3Lwx71vEg6w6Qk2IOS0A+8mbKA=; b=laYabYcLUDZnPEbhk2IflybE3cLWRwRTcqbhFTnaUgJvjFQn8obGLd2IcuZdoXrqkP e71GHvIuxonIRXNDUR5CPQoA7Pch0OnMPo0fL22cQacwFlCI6V2doHGNsgUUBje5EZe6 HMh5RoJTysIxNr7pa2F30U2V+s+PHwoFQCH2LoQekiqHhCE1WIEa2OjLH+acH7dCgPjm /5Qo++J8hVxjs82+JSAvMjxvZi659pyZNB7AjRUNpXZHd0cPQKYixpgG8gJWCgleAxMm el/0yxOR1ZruUaoDfxYFyn12cZIfCqP+ZfAgwsoDqxByh8d6aD9YUSL/UczSVkaccSfp F39g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532mKXkl8fZ9AcjXJAc+E0kkwJ1LMcf4K1Mii2Z6Pnsw8++Ty96/ uKyPn8+Ae7/gZFv1cfzxGS3++zDtJfBwat3NGJhBiizd/aaXtg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwuwBm5OUiPQlYCZ15wvI/7WpBX8+LG2vCFmwkNro+xT/IEkwoxrOLHB9BjMRZVg/oFI0M/NSQH576hh29YFE0= X-Received: by 2002:a92:d107:: with SMTP id a7mr3388993ilb.45.1611203169705; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 20:26:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 20:25:58 -0800 Message-ID: To: Robert Chacon Cc: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] Thanks to developers / htb+fq_codel ISP shaper X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 04:26:10 -0000 Thank you robert, but way more than dozens of folk were and remain more inv= olved in the effort. For starters Jim Gettys fired it all up, and like him, I'm mostly retreated to the sidelines, working on other things. Perhaps in 2021, with a new administration and FCC chair, and so many families stuck at home... will be the year the average user will finally get gear that does more of the right things, especially for videoconferencing, by default, led by the smaller ISPs in competitive markets. I've never figured out how to get the message "more out"; we ran a funding = drive once that got more PR. Half the donations I take from https://www.patreon.com/dtaht go to keeping the flent servers alive and the other half buys top ramen. I just lost my dinghy in a windstorm and can't even get "home" at the moment, and one of my big frustrations from the harbor vantage point whenever I manage to get back... is having to run cake in front of my cell phone in order to make it behave... and another is to see all the very poor offloads from major manufacturers that claim an SQM implementation that doesn't actually work.... But all grousing aside: THANK YOU VERY MUCH for open sourcing a set of tools that help out a smaller ISP. We're all in this bloat together, and by sharing code and ideas we can make for a faster, more reliable, better internet, for everyone. I am quite behind on reading the bloat list, and this thread made my day. thx On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:59 AM Robert Chacon wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I am new here, my name is Robert. I operate a small ISP in the US. I want= ed to post here to thank Dave T=C3=A4ht, as well as the dozens of contribut= ors to the fq_codel and cake projects. > > I created a simple python application that uses htb+fq_codel to shape my = customers' traffic, and have seen great performance improvements. I am main= taining it as an open source project for other ISPs to use at https://githu= b.com/rchac/LibreQoS > > Mostly I just wanted to thank Dave and everyone else here for working to = make fq_codel and cake possible. These are hugely helpful projects that hav= e helped improve our network, and thousands of other networks around the wo= rld. Looking at discussions from fellow ISPs who use Preseem and Sensei, wh= ich use fq_codel, small ISP networks across the world are hugely benefiting= from fq_codel. They are now able to retain customers who would have otherw= ise been lost - thanks to fq_codel and the many optimizations you all made = possible. I hope more ISPs are able to deploy fq_codel and/or cake using ou= r tool or commercial applications like Preseem and Sensei. Amid COVID, fq_c= odel is really important for keeping work-from-home and remote learning con= nectivity stable. Thank you all! > > Thanks, > Robert Chacon > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --=20 "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman dave@taht.net CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729