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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: jb <justinbeech@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] extremely good dslreports result for bufferbloat on free.fr
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:23:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw6gBTa2qPdV2DB8MivWjkDKpnXa_D8C6UzP_cC0Pv7hTQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH3Ss96FnwgK8qxdV-n46GLe2FSsRRa7zD1M_Wmq91o=+-7qdQ@mail.gmail.com>

Heh. Anything above a 250ms gets a F from me. But I strongly approve
of simplification to a set of grades.

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/378980 F, for sure.

Secondly, we tend to regard bufferbloat as one word not two.

This result got no rating. http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/377563

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:07 PM, jb <justinbeech@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've added the discussed "bloat rating".
>
> It takes the idle period before download uses the lowest latency as a
> baseline.
> then it takes the median download and median of upload+trailing idle time,
> and
> subtracts to get the latency increase, then converts to a grade.
>
> Based on a very few results I've looked at the Grade seems reasonable. I've
> added
> a link below the grade for the WTF is this moment a lot of people will have,
> which
> takes them to a short FAQ entry, and then a link to bufferbloat.net ..
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Juliusz Chroboczek
>> <jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> wrote:
>> > Free.fr (Proxad) is certainly much better than other ISPs -- they've
>> > been
>> > the first to give sort-of-native (6rd) IPv6 to the masses.  However,
>> > there's one thing that annoys me -- they have two distinct CPEs, the
>> > classic FreeBox (which I have) and the FreeBox Revolution (which is
>> > slightly less cheap, and takes more physical space -- a big deal if you
>> > live in Paris).  The classic FreeBox needs some love from the firmware
>> > developers, and I'd be curious to know whether your results apply
>> > equally
>> > to both boxen.
>>
>> All ya gotta do is run the new dslreports and/or rrul test(s) on your
>> own older box, and post. ;)
>>
>> My understanding was that the old freebox was too weak to run anything
>> but SFQ, but it did run that on the outbound.
>>
>> >
>> > (The thing that most pisses me off with the classic FreeBox is that it
>> > doesn't allow IPv6 subnetting -- unless you order the FreeBox
>> > Revolution,
>> > you're condemned to the purgatory of ND-proxying.  Grr.)
>>
>> As tiny as the mods now are to support more extensive ipv6 in openwrt,
>> that certainly was not the case in 2012.
>>
>> >
>> > -- Juliusz
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Täht
>> Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware**
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67
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>



-- 
Dave Täht
Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware**

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-30  4:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-28 14:48 Dave Taht
2015-04-28 23:33 ` jb
2015-04-28 23:44   ` David Lang
2015-04-29  1:39     ` Jonathan Morton
2015-04-29  2:01       ` Dave Taht
2015-04-29  2:49       ` jb
2015-04-29 16:32 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2015-04-29 18:32   ` Dave Taht
     [not found]     ` <CAH3Ss96FnwgK8qxdV-n46GLe2FSsRRa7zD1M_Wmq91o=+-7qdQ@mail.gmail.com>
2015-04-30  4:23       ` Dave Taht [this message]
2015-04-30  4:33         ` jb
2015-04-30  4:43           ` Dave Taht
2015-04-30  4:55             ` Dave Taht
2015-04-30  5:23               ` Dave Taht
2015-04-30  5:49                 ` jb
2015-04-30 16:36           ` Dave Taht
2015-05-01  0:48             ` Rich Brown
2015-05-01  3:10               ` jb
2015-05-01  4:41                 ` [Bloat] ThinkBroadBand also has a bloat detector in their speed test Rich Brown
2015-05-01  6:17                   ` jb
2015-05-01  6:05                 ` [Bloat] extremely good dslreports result for bufferbloat on free.fr Dave Taht
2015-05-01  6:31                   ` jb
2015-05-01  8:10                     ` Dave Taht
2015-05-02 11:49                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-05-02 13:40                       ` jb
2015-05-02 15:01                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-05-02 16:55                           ` Dave Taht
2015-05-02 17:15                 ` Aaron Wood

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