From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi0-x22a.google.com (mail-oi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A330E21F24E for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by oign205 with SMTP id n205so38825602oig.2 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:23:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=J6LA+0qPctbZyaFfKVaXdv+gRk/ECtgvS3mmk0acSkQ=; b=hSrxGcgv20oNxkqN5dcspMwwD+m3zYWS3vs4uj+af1nUB5olZzRQ6xs+Gt5e1G4dYL fiJDqDWbrjr+UTRhC93HcUVOQXWkAz+agMl87Ctqm2kAbzOSeihwjYR95DVtLPrrOa6G QPKiS6Fg7NhCJLUPHg4iuAYsAwqD2d9t9ibxcqQYRZVveBUxz0pqEs53eA/WSNbY3tua uFwFJ+0KfxylplQnMRGU+Hv6mcXV1Hcm7U+Gkm3FWegmG5Q10g+Aw4udNcmBLwJ9LYCF 37EzZhDtjiceSejQfbcWqchy6z5JLkM5k5uKER7g9FZCQ0A6Ivc2jDHTECZm/76sVCg6 lEuQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.71.84 with SMTP id u81mr1785636oia.81.1430367814324; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.71.139 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:23:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87618e6gkm.wl-jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:23:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: jb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] extremely good dslreports result for bufferbloat on free.fr X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 04:24:03 -0000 Heh. Anything above a 250ms gets a F from me. But I strongly approve of simplification to a set of grades. http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/378980 F, for sure. Secondly, we tend to regard bufferbloat as one word not two. This result got no rating. http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/377563 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:07 PM, jb wrote: > I've added the discussed "bloat rating". > > It takes the idle period before download uses the lowest latency as a > baseline. > then it takes the median download and median of upload+trailing idle time= , > and > subtracts to get the latency increase, then converts to a grade. > > Based on a very few results I've looked at the Grade seems reasonable. I'= ve > added > a link below the grade for the WTF is this moment a lot of people will ha= ve, > which > takes them to a short FAQ entry, and then a link to bufferbloat.net .. > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Juliusz Chroboczek >> wrote: >> > Free.fr (Proxad) is certainly much better than other ISPs -- they've >> > been >> > the first to give sort-of-native (6rd) IPv6 to the masses. However, >> > there's one thing that annoys me -- they have two distinct CPEs, the >> > classic FreeBox (which I have) and the FreeBox Revolution (which is >> > slightly less cheap, and takes more physical space -- a big deal if yo= u >> > live in Paris). The classic FreeBox needs some love from the firmware >> > developers, and I'd be curious to know whether your results apply >> > equally >> > to both boxen. >> >> All ya gotta do is run the new dslreports and/or rrul test(s) on your >> own older box, and post. ;) >> >> My understanding was that the old freebox was too weak to run anything >> but SFQ, but it did run that on the outbound. >> >> > >> > (The thing that most pisses me off with the classic FreeBox is that it >> > doesn't allow IPv6 subnetting -- unless you order the FreeBox >> > Revolution, >> > you're condemned to the purgatory of ND-proxying. Grr.) >> >> As tiny as the mods now are to support more extensive ipv6 in openwrt, >> that certainly was not the case in 2012. >> >> > >> > -- Juliusz >> >> >> >> -- >> Dave T=C3=A4ht >> Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware** >> >> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67 >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware** https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67