From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk1-x732.google.com (mail-qk1-x732.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::732]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A684B3B29E for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 12:51:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qk1-x732.google.com with SMTP id i5so10430794qkd.13 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 09:51:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fgCjoIeyIKZ1+nuB8f6QxHX720wfRnSdOkUtafGDaEo=; b=XYupkk4hkQSBZ9Fg0tbfQyyrMUYGi9SI2eBXIDRUGXXgFOePGRfbZqEKbx5FsEvNGK wp4d5EuAV5Zn06EDtw1EH0CJ1aMNTyR1+ny6W3TzNt//NI1wpHPdSUvj2aLE4KZR652Z Df5F9G2F/XW1iAfR5gmKJV3LyLGcfDG6gE+Z7zqi6ujLQkP26ivUkeiMkcYWctvlSWwW fPJiLniOxj4tXI+S4BwovS9XLElZnlWuiz5uJ0W0dqsEkZSEeUlq+Kk/2It7l2PfMF3T XMx4juJXZkAxZ3DpUDiV8bmMmjaFq5NsEabOlqLyp18DWE1BiUDpSWlFMuxj/mL7qYTh dkJw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fgCjoIeyIKZ1+nuB8f6QxHX720wfRnSdOkUtafGDaEo=; b=JqfGPSz1MQPAW3Ok4XoIN5JSGHoGEXXFJ+5Dqqbs30ilgHh1zoJ5GFuG6DTvULEq7L 12wVdb48DecIfscfNt4YQNrNgELRdJgjQUNB4qwekcPq8kOFb9dRLnrXOODGsfJZxG2K 7HaK8L7qrMtm24Cd2DilPWUk1dUQKQ8O2trcLkXKVnQGiJzhZnndTPphm2Mhkern82R2 UG/Do40vCm2RDZP88t8uFnXJbxoxXJLrzM7f6mR1BjgWurzwkrT2tjhtI0z+E7oiZ3Yq 4HXJCvqI2igkXn2C9ijDu9et1gysPaNwRECv691C7aHNReC6oOWc7+vKg1xuxBpiOhr/ CkXw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuY+b+kEtkvHmpALnaES1H2gm8u8ABNF1dtjF7ZqZODBm78t70X8 UIF6Wnzy2+ZLf4evA1VYPLDftP3aCR53oKJUapvDPwKVQ2E= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IZi1sZvGHn7h+KfBBpxM5X/ewg31ErGXdW8K2vNVDFxyh1UCUHfl5giD0XeLmGHxsZzBBxOIK26GAJWLOXvX+U= X-Received: by 2002:a37:3515:: with SMTP id c21mr17312430qka.17.1550512281305; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 09:51:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 09:51:09 -0800 Message-ID: To: bloat , babel-users Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] congestion collapse on the arpanet due to routing delays X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 17:51:22 -0000 I was recently introduced to the internet history[1] mailing list. As one example of the far ranging convo into "prehistory" there, this was entertaining starting at page 8 or so... https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a053450.pdf [1] http://mailman.postel.org/pipermail/internet-history/2019-February/thre= ad.html --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740