From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd2b.google.com (mail-io1-xd2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 801B83B2A4 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 12:02:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd2b.google.com with SMTP id k8so80856iot.1 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 09:02:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SAp8S99lQzE0iBiOK3/mEdgMgbVgJUUQ8yAiYuI3NPY=; b=EkhecDiT2F/SRvmKKLi89N/gtUzB6aM75pB9ZKXi5iz5BV0CVlB6WQucUbdpzqHUzg 9m3RCGIJOpdhf7MHbroL/7NoaLA7Zcw98+jDAEkp3uLoiOyv501Nw4Zuy/bgD4frLc6H YoplRCffPp1wQK4NDRgNXTWxUcGfLjdc+ladMGgv20vnj6lI0XcGEp0fPc2Uad/YdzsF aKQT13G9FOBVTrxTmVyEAPJqfKt3qSIt+vjj9wG9d9qX9vi18RQ83uLmnr6P8wfm3cOm 3Tz4e9X5Obc9PmABMulHh+/nUqxYhHjAaRPigBBkKoVuf0OYrkbXL/tGQ7MhmRuj9vOG eIhA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SAp8S99lQzE0iBiOK3/mEdgMgbVgJUUQ8yAiYuI3NPY=; b=OXGsL4Wunr0RtgZ3wryx8gjGnm3oHr3CvqP7wa/G3FhQohrpVuf1DhErrA+ALcVRIB aaGVhIF8B4DblyuuCOCZvmviXhV/819BI7Jijs7rAkaSC64uXVnQ5TA4kjlT63DLSIjq ef7Na+PxwNcRU84/MlrBHIh7Lv82BWU/iFOQTh9PFZR45rZ3aQEO5IlKDdiWNix0zqSB UNmFEl5WaZFvUSafj3YyQ673R2JzhmYlTdSF1VZqwh8fKYLN3C/WtTl9A20YT2ty+k3S g5+6UuBE7RQSIl4Mvr2m9HoNI22srvys7CHFaxf1/QxUYS8PiuGPul0QGNNSptWSfZhL RzRA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU+7Oyy6m16csy2FTaiGhH6shNz+Qqf5/Do3Y/kle5KETTfLLuC NodHwncTMWG8Na1kNkzOd1XXYPzTvqxcDQ6/5QGyP2ak X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy3hYkBCVij3gITp/a8rAaZ5PMfbajd9gRaLJm40qQC+GgrKqIlbIMz7ZHpm61W9F3agv+bnN496G3nRUhMizk= X-Received: by 2002:a02:c7c9:: with SMTP id s9mr94224572jao.82.1560960158590; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 09:02:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 09:02:27 -0700 Message-ID: To: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] R&D&D X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 16:02:39 -0000 I think we are long past time where the kind of research, development, and deployment we do here needed a sustainable business model. This conference looked interesting: https://ti.to/open-core-summit/open-core-summit as does the sponsor: https://oss.capital/ - they've invented a new word - cossi - and their analyses are interesting. --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740