From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pj1-x1029.google.com (mail-pj1-x1029.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1029]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 602B33B29D for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2023 07:41:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pj1-x1029.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-280109daaaaso2684443a91.3 for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2023 04:41:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1699188109; x=1699792909; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=qBjn88IhynlqjAdjLpHSukYA2mB9Gyv11l0gfVL8gCs=; b=DWHnnAR2YRNzW2DAWcAhtx9wcriwICBJmYdLs4xgMJg4KKnO/k+/cBRCBh5ipGMaQr ouRJT+qK9M3r+ck9l9WjiIiwlI5awBVEbuKOqIwkE2TKfgj2+W0fVVEa7p0y7L0rTOLD 7ZkZqKTMnEflPqMoz3M/r5+JTv2j7I90uUxloXuPJg6XhgLvBfearGIsK0QOyzvlPOgf T0sOZCASC/be8eyc87BDV2fcm1taeHer1Ev28Zmv+f9ZMHmA/GDpfN72NRGxul0wgWW2 G7fR1dTnXLj2lD19RgURVJx56iwg07ed/POPIyD6Yrr7McHLK28nIMpwD/DcFvx3aAFI M8uA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1699188109; x=1699792909; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=qBjn88IhynlqjAdjLpHSukYA2mB9Gyv11l0gfVL8gCs=; b=D+g+C3UNVEBqpY0Wzig3mf4isBK5+A2kCfZEdBcmw+5lJLhGI77OQdrn9hP7Fnlp7d TcByJ/XqTx3wi7p/WMj399oMNnbA+mCV4kJ5ormwbyUAI1LPdoyMY7VYGZL4YLPIXRMx h4UCg7Jpcb6JluXTQq6GR8inPTDCGM/iKB8GEALiEMvOEy5ogalyJR82MeEPcBqtU04+ 93NT6qH4dsCSZ6kA5ya747OREDWJgCc4ShqT2H44K5MWdSSXYKumjlaBUwUS21BdIprx ORgQWKqkGQr2cTh+swxJWs1wu32HnioG2yLJfq53Ja+cPaUywwWRfLwHIub+e9MR+zmn ulKw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxG8TbxSCdmq17PIYuxQyoBs/M4t6C+6GiLzCcfEKb2o1jJ2ESq /EzWN7QJvHgX9dSpHXef0SRSszNL1qjF0lvK498RMXQoWug= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGALYTc/xn8c2YgB7HrGzXEABMzDXWdiF44BBErMDDGH3MAchlQE3G8TAvLdMBbKppcEwZFrvHBi8BfV3YaUdM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:8:b0:280:c576:31bb with SMTP id 8-20020a17090a000800b00280c57631bbmr8399907pja.35.1699188108668; Sun, 05 Nov 2023 04:41:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2023 07:41:36 -0500 Message-ID: To: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] how latency harms collaboration X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2023 12:41:50 -0000 First of a a series, apparently: https://blog.webex.com/hybrid-work/how-latency-harms-collaboration/ Points to this study of videoconferencing latency's effects: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1071581914000287 --=20 Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos