From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd29.google.com (mail-io1-xd29.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C2333B29D for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 14:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-io1-xd29.google.com with SMTP id n11so243934iom.9 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 11:32:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JSN/LIDh5ReMklpfIq54IIFLVrMW8UGbqhRSgoBlFl8=; b=CimzvL5ffppQC9slgCxZADyWLbm75WNlJwMDBC/2Rq1ZTJoutAlnVrP0PQ92UE9kIu nTmr4mcMo1w/yWE8+HFAlffSuN3VGudnK30pJtaxDft8YLCmsXh0ZPJ2QnstSnjmDiVC AMzcPRwQfzSpZ1EjdcW7pmBMEV1bXmUdH8IvWumMINSqgjUDOjKHHVBvqxZy+jZRAN5i EmyZjsP1wgO8BOVj1106TqiTDFSwqejiXrMvWO8bEMdeeAIZxIVQyTlaiMeg3KBLrYgH bRnMwgprN7TFiiKg7MUPj7eNq3WdEELgXg/lBCZa3nuN9Y2YvusKbNOQ44HtkuSd5VyU aSuw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JSN/LIDh5ReMklpfIq54IIFLVrMW8UGbqhRSgoBlFl8=; b=sTl7q8YUddLuCtNAQL4bU8r0hvihsQ31eu3yvsTRVH97/k6+5OD4nSNFWZ0+1L8tbK 93QyH5Dor0nPq+i2Lr9c/xP3ZhwKMtfpd/RMWP6z7uJK8m03my1nvQkPbeh5H0QPZ1CS 8epVJQPApSt3a73zen2r+6E60atBxiTuAivlP+1j5UymFfnEH5aIl/1eWuw3PFyaBTQk e6+VXpXC0WxxJGxtxXWQuUDSbxYyiLFeBCM9M6vQF23vFUFP4ARYoQFC+rAU1SDP4gjU tumftyAVIHa11xHEHNgg7eMAuvdaQpexVpiJgUiTcRNQ/7VFjrv5M1q/ulqE2/HPrR+q A0Kw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVi/AE8xb1lexhXTPqKePp3HBnglARE6ik8uPmX8NStlgiifBdy XgcgPr/OCB0U9Qhxw/FIQKhY2I5jg26vBwOhy6BFrQY8 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwwnFDXpIFJOSFETNS+Usi8TtAewf2YSE7g4pQURKR/aKj4f9kArocBybsTMelTsns5pryBFfioMPNerbUwAYc= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:3b54:: with SMTP id i81mr6895139ioa.249.1576783957761; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 11:32:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 11:32:26 -0800 Message-ID: To: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] some benchmarks from arstechnica X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 19:32:38 -0000 I was not aware that jim salter had really gone to town on measuring latency under load in the past year - notably the 4 stream 1024p + web browsing torture test used here: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/11/ars-puts-googles-new-nest-wi-fi-to-= the-test/?itm_source=3Dparsely-api https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/12/amazons-inexpensive-eero-mesh-wi-fi= -kit-is-shockingly-good/?comments=3D1 He considers under 500ms of browsing latency to be "good". Not entirely sure how he's calculating that, I think he's measuring page completion time rather than "latency" per se'. The tools he uses are here: https://github.com/jimsalterjrs/network-testing/blob/master/README.md --=20 Make Music, Not War Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-435-0729