From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg1-x52e.google.com (mail-pg1-x52e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCFC43B29E; Fri, 7 Jul 2023 17:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pg1-x52e.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-55b22f82ac8so2368572a12.1; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:55:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1688766900; x=1691358900; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=0fWt5YmgUZ3Kvg7O0J0AAadfs1eG1Vy4FgbLW4C0ynM=; b=GV5gt/+xG+jsS5vZBRDqHl5Cd0QJoebV8HLdBCndheZG2wz4HQFKvYNGWmAhAb+MKC xkp7jyy0IIBduvPMIlZn37WckI9vJ/SsjA8BheMkoVQfOU0O33nbJ4ohbmDIg8pKTRGt wqsarhqXD3FlFfZ+NPEszXxr1GA/mc6dJuxY2cjgfDFtsS1971vkYSBTEAOXi/U04N3j 13OgBaO4mHCEG5/i+qOFGcZC1Wx/iRyx9TskdrldqeDnpzwrSD/VP/9myUAfkWlkYWqy BNX/PZvS/v0pfthjNvsr5nYPx1+eyezXMPn+yYcsRbw9HByz3Rdz1PGGv/LURUoxODyv tT/Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1688766900; x=1691358900; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=0fWt5YmgUZ3Kvg7O0J0AAadfs1eG1Vy4FgbLW4C0ynM=; b=HozR7gyBJ1px9Q7fwt/Ag3TNQm7KpJC+RwmkTEiV2pcxiUqpxU9/RREfZQsWOGZ05D isEh4icwxzg3YEwPV6X3lzRApra3N5x0Q67v/+FJ6KBy85MqjWcSflTPNwaGFEHcE0Yi ILtKiOux1AMj6Q123+WKrGGhu7Z+j5IiwUMl0irrsnVj2ls0JWGXkweOX1yDO1dKoPUO RT3DQNPTOeRnFgrZR63udSQKXeBXj3iDmjblUcL32Wru8IGX5td7Mt4mW7Exb3KYpslt IpRNIs/I7KXtok800lvLNM1cxZ7++c8UzKMiJj0nmg3FxzyjHQhIt3dqvy2yWoYagPop WY2A== X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLYvcN9oEaz0W0FkP1S3vFaWYNtCs3rQn4ecqPXHf+Ttnl7+/tdV XIdbY2FtE3pm9zGBGc+4oi1qfmI99vJpPx+avQ2sUICVc/uIug== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlFlSuldz6Ejssp7q3v4Gl8fkOB6/fae/hKCkT3ozDcLvUpCD1kyIt9OqKw/FXzfoKz2a1tv9h+iaT9QGwoTFE8= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:1b4f:b0:264:7a:6a84 with SMTP id q73-20020a17090a1b4f00b00264007a6a84mr10691913pjq.0.1688766900231; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:55:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2023 15:54:47 -0600 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht via Starlink , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] cantor dust X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 21:55:01 -0000 I have been re-reading James Gleick's book on "Chaos", (highly recommended) and digging a little bit into Mandelbrot's work. "A new model for the clustering of errors on telephone circuits", published in 1963, was worth a read. https://sci-hub.se/https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/5392305 I look at old stuff like this and wish i could find all the cites flowering forward. --=20 Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227= 111937/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos