From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd2e.google.com (mail-io1-xd2e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FB3C3CB35 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 03:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd2e.google.com with SMTP id r8so35925515iol.10 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 00:18:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yjemP8SNlo1IFSqYoKLCg3OfybKGojMV3R1qV13NpRI=; b=N1u9mbBgPKiIJJoizT/SDu+0VWI4okZvzwV8PhQsavc4TiuyD1ha0Q6BufB3C/KCEc P9+3W/oEsLVnqfIbTi5BEArErf4h8h07JUCHAdegLJnq8wy+2p8bo7IOlWCgnOYqKKoF ghZnoRpaj3PPxQfDtgC5EwOmfxpcFloa4isqfZbTt6c2uS3cVFMJMgTHRoofVshpUPdh v4DLuX5AS65R10i+RZNByCcprcXOSotjrVZ92oe7hV4Uk2dkl34MoqUi1CfNeecHNUeJ F8uTpCvkyjVD2NJldT7E4t2+oAAei1o7x74S9e1LeU4erT58MLnm2+bh6sc0DUzGYlhb ETMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yjemP8SNlo1IFSqYoKLCg3OfybKGojMV3R1qV13NpRI=; b=mHk6uMx1vAtvm64iWqe6A1ubHExu+aQYuDAfZ+pZ586YzoMYNebRMbBVvWvWUPdTba O8lQRIYgWFN45cp15mTXbvvr+WTdPll4XsVA87UBPA2gf9oQEs8/1CLzeiaITsnGGfuv eTo61KZHFnJOJrRkFyE1E6Y4aGe8SIU12lhsrDJkD9ClGHkGHoZCHOZPJj/g5C/07/8H HcmieYRhTl+Ecsb2N6wXuWkMSevkQEvnbQTYO+AB2L3+TURhWr2+BaO6suKa/SMsPnxj eKZGCZHDejT7VnzXvVXrFbjx1SZFIsk/tTK4qEFTOARctGMC3ALqvKRnBkV1+/o7wnZQ 2v5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXnJpdEf9hs18T725jL4ckxz5cML59VgEv219+iSkdXOPwGW9r7 YtUkspQOdjUIOzOxv+Cpxo+1+auSxwjexEeq1pM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzu9VL3SRRynyNqH8lnYH34THrS/rMSVysmtPHWXwF2k9nqzoZYshqvRTWCV7HDbVyop7zXIlKDdjRjPA3WYYw= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:8350:: with SMTP id q16mr4031826ior.45.1568359092455; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 00:18:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:18:00 +0100 Message-ID: To: David Lang Cc: Etienne Champetier , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] Dual Channel Wi-Fi X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 07:18:13 -0000 and this: https://www.edgewaterwireless.com/ On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 7:13 AM Dave Taht wrote: > > There's more to it than that. > > https://www-res.cablelabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/24150908/Dual-Ch= annel-Wi-Fi-Performance-Test-Report-June-2019.pdf > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 7:03 AM David Lang wrote: > > > > it's an optimization that will work well when there is only one person = using the > > network, and utterly collapse when there is a lot of use. > > > > it assumes that 'high priority' and bulk things only move in one direct= ion, it > > uses more channels, which will cause more collisions with other users a= nd other > > networks. > > > > a fairly typical type of idea to someone who doesn't look at what's act= ually > > happening at the RF level. > > > > David Lang > > > > On Fri, 13 Sep 2019, Etienne Champetier wrote: > > > > > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 14:47:38 +0900 > > > From: Etienne Champetier > > > To: bloat > > > Subject: [Bloat] Dual Channel Wi-Fi > > > > > > I'm curious what people on this mailing list think about this Wi-Fi > > > optimisation > > > > > > https://www.cablelabs.com/technologies/dual-channel-wi-fi > > > https://github.com/openwrt/packages/pull/9972 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bloat mailing list > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > > -- > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-831-205-9740 --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740