From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x331.google.com (mail-wm1-x331.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::331]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D65023B2A4; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 08:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x331.google.com with SMTP id j3so6222758wms.2; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 05:52:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1678625547; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=wJ0PQuQcwDHjHP39t14xMP9AolTMG6y3+En3KV7j04U=; b=GXjAtWhR4Z929QZOvYP9fdwnK4CQShgKTYNyEl4fyP0sIXF2g6dj0Hx7qYGTtFauJZ 6UgIqIBcTjC3mtUrOdtpmIX77H6edpPaXhrOYT7nYeS/Tg2stv501lreDLIe0NB81mUU ++eSoCCSXhuYwGodqk5hECe6Ygqu6z2GHCtvnpLzd2jih9Yd/GT+ebFpa46S9TvwQbxF QvrKM/nufvedk+TYdHsZJPrcVTIb9GQ54ETKg58+GabANwZvkNJeGrC8kKx5yf7OT5Vf clruTm2p2NJaeFbNzOoZfPk7HDu+jzdhsNOxLOxYnVT70msMBfy9CK7LizG8BmhcIO4r DFWQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1678625547; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=wJ0PQuQcwDHjHP39t14xMP9AolTMG6y3+En3KV7j04U=; b=mYhgWRPRtWP3oVRcdkyLaGFVzfJtt5A5LXyGWm9/tp4uw3wZoh1rPwTgaXhSEpBLqy rvqlFoCa3yCz9zS2aXas+EcZk2Dd2/UeRun7jknEu9fvlB1cudYdBl/NLxNxemAOkcuu 7wrV6C704eSHoo+b8ywA42rcVj3kguzZe1gmPJf+pwYaBXt3aVEy98bw8mL7Bd4bCzsq cVxDegy4I/z8ZlubWhaMoSdLtRYyh+gljFd74SXbU8rEK8ZtBlVlGQwVEL8r0yiaEze8 FQemKloRVmEUC4BW6vPECKKow24nH6Pth/0P+LEALG0JW30F7n/idSj1JhStNcOk8zT8 ZbPw== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKUJnFSJoDOtPQpMDlgOoVnYO2XUmlfw0z8+AQtqB7FnxvvZHtdQ nzZ2looS4MZuipeeZv8KrWZfTmiiQJqJeXIgocXEYFQY7yY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set9PMm1jLwe5SAPKt+/RH2mJ/s1CXWay4ENNEjMg05hhNQQA0SZkC1VwCYxt2Qf2KU5Y7U2bib/YgS3xIRxmRVM= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:5114:b0:3ea:8ed9:8e4b with SMTP id o20-20020a05600c511400b003ea8ed98e4bmr2247305wms.6.1678625547124; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 05:52:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 05:52:16 -0700 Message-ID: To: Rpm , Dave Taht via Starlink , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] RFC: bufferbloat observability project X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 12:52:29 -0000 I just put together a list of common tools developers use every day, that would benefit from observing and managing network latency better. Things like git, and so on. Could some folk out there please pitch in with additional suggestions? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SPuDhjMggexUuIGV8lUziQ3r8JjyLSwpZPoHieV= LiaE/edit#heading=3Dh.fyd7g5rbur4a Also it increasingly bothers me to see unbounded queues in so many new language libraries. --=20 Roy Beatty (from Blade Runner) and I: https://www.understandinglatency.com/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC