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* [Bloat] temporal and spacial locality
@ 2022-09-26  1:19 Dave Taht
  2022-09-26 11:29 ` Sebastian Moeller
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From: Dave Taht @ 2022-09-26  1:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bloat

Some good counterarguments against FQ and pacing.

https://www.usenix.org/system/files/nsdi22-paper-ghasemirahni.pdf

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* Re: [Bloat] temporal and spacial locality
  2022-09-26  1:19 [Bloat] temporal and spacial locality Dave Taht
@ 2022-09-26 11:29 ` Sebastian Moeller
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From: Sebastian Moeller @ 2022-09-26 11:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht, Dave Taht via Bloat, bloat

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IMHO this is another example of 'batching helps to ameliorate per-batch set-up/processing costs'. The trick I would say is to size the batches in a way that they do not introduce too much latency granularity. For a server that might be a coarser granularity than for a client or a home router. My gut feeling tells me that the acceptable batch size is related to the required transmission/processing time of a batch.
In a sense cake already coarsely takes this into account when disabling GSO splitting at >= 1 Gbps rates. Maybe we could also scale the quantum more aggressively, but it is a tradeoff....


Regards

On 26 September 2022 03:19:30 CEST, Dave Taht via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>Some good counterarguments against FQ and pacing.
>
>https://www.usenix.org/system/files/nsdi22-paper-ghasemirahni.pdf
>
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>FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/
>Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
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